Parents as Partners Episode 44 April 4, 2011 Dr. Joyce Epstein National Network of Partnership School
Joyce talked about t the National Network of Partnership Schools and how School Family and Community Partnerships support student success. Dr. Epstein explained how deliberate and measured results can be obtained by developing teams of teachers, parents and community members whose purpose is to support student success.
Jose Rodriguez joined Lorna, Peggy and Kim adding his expertise in streaming the Elluminate session on ustream.
Link to the elluminate recording: https://sas.elluminate.com/site/external/jwsdetect/playback.jnlp?psid=2011-04-04.1800.M.E48372280A56C678D78541C932B6B4.vcr&sid=2008350
Apr 4, 2011 7:59:35 PM - PARENTS AS PARTNERS
01:25 - Peggy George
the joys of technology!! I love that Dr. Epstein can join us via telephone! Such a wonderful opportunity for us!
01:28 - Kim Caise
puentes al mundo
02:31 - Peggy George
Jose was a great facilitator for the Spanish-speaking community for the K12 Online Conference!
02:32 - Jose Rodriguez
02:33 - Kim Howland
I am
03:06 - Peggy George
how exciting! great to have "newbies" here! Feel free to ask questions any time in the chat and we'll be happy to help you.
03:33 - Peggy George
much easier to see a big chat window if you use the wide layout.
04:12 - Peggy George
I hope you're all hearing the audio now. If you're not let us know in the chat
04:32 - Kelly
Sounds great.
04:45 - Rangel
I agree sounds great
05:23 - Peggy George
finally a cooler day today in Phoenix AZ! We hit 102 degrees a few days ago but only about 90 today.
05:52 - Peggy George
now that's worse :-)
05:56 - Peggy George
yeah! perfect!
06:24 - Peggy George
you click on the green check/red x at the bottom of the participant list of names
06:24 - Kim Caise
consultant
06:25 - Kim Howland
Parent
06:26 - Elizabethhaigh 2
C: Administrator
06:28 - Bob
other
06:31 - Rangel
B
06:31 - Kelly
Professional Development Facilitator
06:37 - Peggy George
no abcd choice
06:38 - Brendan Murphy
teacher
06:40 - Bob
Parent - Teacher - Grad Student
06:43 - nikki
trainer/instructor
06:45 - Rangel
Teacher
07:01 - Peggy George
professional development consultant :-)
07:12 - Bob
Is that like a co-op programme?
07:17 - Peggy George
and retired elementary principal and university pre-service instructor
07:41 - Peggy George
I had a school partnership team when I was a principal :-)
08:37 - Peggy George
what is NNPS ...link to website .. www.csos.jhu.edu/p2000/
08:52 - Peggy George
09:11 - Peggy George
Welcome Joyce!!!
09:24 - Rangel
Hello Joyce!
10:04 - Peggy George
I love that these sessions are recorded so we can share them with colleagues who aren't able to attend the live session!
11:24 - Peggy George
(Inter)National Network of Partnership Schools at Johns Hopkins University NNPS :-)
12:11 - Peggy George
it's so powerful to have a research base for implementing these partnerships!!
12:46 - Lorna Costantini 1
HI Sheila nice to see u
13:03 - Peggy George
partnership is such a great term because the emphasis is that we are all in this together with a common goal!
13:09 - Sheila
Hi all - sorry that I am late
13:19 - Peggy George
Hi Sheila! Welcome to Elluminate :-)
13:37 - Lorna Costantini 1
not late
14:35 - Peggy George
For Dr. Epstein’ publications, see the Publications List in the section Research and Evaluation. http://www.csos.jhu.edu/p2000/publications.htm
17:23 - Peggy George
parents really want to be involved in their child's education--beyond bake sales and parent/teacher conferences :-)
18:03 - Peggy George
healthy school is an interesting term--makes sense
18:45 - Peggy George
how do you do all of that assessment without feeling overwhelmed??
18:52 - Sheila
Do goals have to be measurable to be good goals?
19:34 - Peggy George
maybe measurable but not always "quantifiable"--based on scores or numbers
19:39 - Brendan Murphy
How can parents get involved in curriculum decisions?
20:11 - Peggy George
there are so many ways to assess success/progress but the public tends to look for test scores
22:30 - Peggy George
I was really wondering about all of the assessments and the collection of data--schools, principals and teachers have so much of this to do and it can be really overwhelming. Can you build that kind of partnership with less time spent on collecting data?
23:30 - Peggy George
@Brendan our School Site Council was involved in curriculum, policy and budget decisions for our school with representatives from parents, community members, teachers, administrators (elementary so we didn't have students on our council)
24:38 - Peggy George
http://www.csos.jhu.edu/p2000/
25:19 - Peggy George
do you have ways of collaborating that don't require meetings?
26:21 - Peggy George
http://www.csos.jhu.edu/p2000/success.htm
26:43 - Sheila
need a key communicator with parents - who?
27:00 - Peggy George
that is so wonderful to have success stories posted so we can learn from their experiences!
27:10 - Peggy George
great question Sheila!
27:32 - Sheila
always more questions than answers! :)
27:46 - Peggy George
so true...
29:38 - Sheila
I think I see two twitter friends here right now...:)
30:09 - Peggy George
some parents just can't or don't want to come to meetings. they are often held in evenings when they feel they need to be helping their kids with homework, spending time with family, after school activities for kids, etc.
30:09 - Kim Howland
:-)
30:35 - Sheila
Hi Kim!
30:45 - Peggy George
http://www.csos.jhu.edu/p2000/ppp/index.htm
31:07 - Sheila
So important to hook dads!
31:59 - Cameron
Sorry if this has been covered, but where might I buy a book?
32:02 - Peggy George
I really like this list on Joyce's site-6 types of involvement http://www.csos.jhu.edu/p2000/nnps_model/school/sixtypes.htm
32:07 - Kim Howland
BC parents have used Joyce's materials for years Her work has been a key source to helping us build a strong parent invovlement in our province. :-)
32:23 - Jennifer Voorhees
What are ways that people are getting dads and father figures involved? This "Dangerous Dads" sounds interesting.
32:23 - Bob
where are you Kim
32:31 - Kim Howland
Nanaimo BC
32:37 - Bob
Victoria :)
32:44 - Bob
UVic
33:06 - Kim Howland
nice to meet you Bob :-)
33:18 - Peggy George
http://www.csos.jhu.edu/p2000/publications/manual.htm Handbook for Action
34:03 - Peggy George
we got our dads to come out when we had BBQs at school, often right before little league games/practice :-)
34:08 - Bob
you too, we really should chat ... later
35:15 - Peggy George
17 minute video highlights the goals and services of NNPS http://www.csos.jhu.edu/p2000/presentations.htm#Workshop
35:43 - Peggy George
such an important point!! it's the action that's important and not just talking about it
36:17 - Sheila
I think that: Action plan for partnerships
37:06 - Peggy George
@Cameron-did you get the answer to your question about where to buy the book? not sure which book you meant
37:13 - Cameron
yep - cheers
37:18 - Peggy George
great
37:37 - Sheila
good point!
38:33 - Sheila
Communications team/plan then?
38:36 - Peggy George
could you ask her to talk about her parent surveys and how they are used?
38:43 - Cameron
There is a tension/balance with embracing this idea (and its a cracking idea) and teachers having a work/life balance. IN my school a few of us use ICT to facilitate pretty great comms with parents but the cost is less down-time. I love my job but I don't want to do it for free
38:52 - Peggy George
http://www.csos.jhu.edu/p2000/survey.htm
39:38 - Peggy George
excellent point @Cameron and something I heard frequently from my teachers and parents too--challenge in finding balance in their lives
40:53 - Kim Howland
the more on the team to support the work, the more success and more time for each individual and the great benefit for the kids learning and outcomes
40:56 - Peggy George
we got our dads to show up for our family "Read Under the Stars" night where they brought picnics, blankets and flashlights for reading together--also had a huge telescope for them to view the stars :-)
41:16 - Sheila
Good idea for our PICs?
41:35 - Bob
hmmm could use that for mathematics too eh?
41:57 - Peggy George
that is so important to hear from all of those voices!
42:44 - Sheila
There are issues of trust when it is parent volunteers communicating at times...need clear guidelines?
42:59 - Bob
What are the surveys called?
43:06 - Bob
Are they available online?
43:20 - Lorna Costantini 1
The surveys are in the handbook
43:44 - Kim Howland
in my daughters elementary school, parent advisory council and school principal put out questionaire to ask dads what is your favorite hobbie, and would you like to volunteer to share that with some kids, had dads come in to teach painting, canoe building, building of motors - lawn mowers, motorcycles and coaching some sport games ... it was a great questionaire.. and we were told that the best part was that they were actually asked :-)... kids loved it, teachers loved it.. and the community was stronger
43:49 - Jennifer Voorhees
@ Peggy George - Thanks for some of the ideas for getting dads involved :)
44:14 - Peggy George
those team training days are so valuable because although you're "working" with a clear purpose you are also building relationships! we had team training days for our School Site Council to help them understand and develop school improvement plans
44:31 - Cameron
In terms of internal resourcing, did staff get line allowances or time-in-lieu to get these things off the ground?
44:34 - Sheila
Sounds great Kim!
45:01 - Peggy George
in our school the teachers got the day off for training days with subs provided for them
45:12 - Kim Howland
@sheila it was great to see our dads in the school and kids so excited to have them there
45:13 - Bob
Great idea Kim, thanks for sharing :)
45:13 - Jennifer Voorhees
It's amazing how diverse the activites were once the school asked for the dad's input.
45:33 - Peggy George
not just training days but really planning days for creating our school goals and action plans
45:42 - Peggy George
great point Jennifer!!!
46:25 - Sheila
fundraising doesn't catch dads as much, it seems
46:39 - Jennifer Voorhees
Do any schools do things to encourge a parent/community involvement during the summer to help prevent the summer slide?
46:43 - Peggy George
that is such a great suggestion Kim H!!! everyone feels valued when they are asked to do something that they feel comfortable doing
47:27 - Kim Howland
@ Jennifer - Our community has community schools in a few of our elementary / highschools and they run programs through the summer
47:39 - Peggy George
we used to send summer calendars home with the kids that were geared to one activity every day for their grade level--often hands-on activities and things families could do together
49:57 - Sheila
Not aware of any training this specific in Ontario
50:23 - Kim Howland
@peggy some of our teachers also did this through my childrens elementary years.
50:41 - Bob
In my recent survey research we found that parents would welcome math videos to support them and their children
50:56 - Bob
another close response was for mobile apps
51:04 - Kim Howland
@bob... that would have been great
51:07 - Bob
what do y'all think?
51:26 - Peggy George
I agree Bob!
51:31 - Kim Howland
love the apps idea at the highschool level for sure
51:49 - Bob
so now my supervisor has me working towards math video rubric and I still keep in mind mobile apps to help parents as well
52:01 - Kim Howland
:-)
52:08 - Bob
we are focusing upon grades 4-7
52:12 - Jennifer Voorhees
I could really see mobile apps working well. My son (7 years old) uses the apps on my phone & it would be great to have ones related to what he's doing in school
52:17 - Bob
parents of children in those grades
52:27 - Peggy George
that's a great way to do it Bob :-) when you're thinking apps you're thinking simple ways to communicate and learn
52:28 - Bob
Exactly!
52:38 - Kim Howland
that's a great place to start :-)
52:49 - Bob
I was a little surprised from our recent parent survey
52:54 - Jose Rodriguez
yep...there are 150 schools in my part of town
53:01 - Peggy George
wow Jose!
53:13 - Kim Howland
wow... we only have 41 in our whole district
53:26 - Peggy George
@Jose-are they all public schools?
53:26 - Bob
my supervisors brother has a programming development company
53:35 - Kim Howland
bob what grade group of parents did you survey?
53:43 - Jose Rodriguez
150 public plus charter and parochial
53:45 - Bob
have you ever downloaded Math Tappers software (iTunes)
54:11 - Kim Howland
@bob nope but I'll have to get my daughter to try it
54:15 - Peggy George
what level is that Bob?
54:16 - Bob
Grades 4 - 7 parents across Canada, but most from BC responded
54:31 - Sheila
we have 29 schools in our board - perfect! :)
54:39 - Bob
Math tappers are there stuff, we haven't gotten there yet.
54:58 - Bob
our parents suggested a small percentage higher for videos
55:05 - Bob
so that is what I have to look at now
55:09 - Jennifer Voorhees
It's also good to check out website compatibility with SmartPhones. First in Math for example works great on a Smart Phone. Schools should keep this in mind when selecting progams to purchase.
55:20 - Bob
but I think we still want to keep the apps in mind as well
55:24 - Peggy George
is the Math Tappers software for computers or mobile devices?
56:02 - Kim Howland
my daughters have used the math videos on learning network to help them through high school math homework and they found it very helpful.
56:16 - Sheila
Yes it is a juggle
56:17 - Bob
if we get something developed, we'd like it to work on non-apple products as well
56:30 - Kim Howland
:-)
56:40 - Bob
Math Tappers - iTunes
56:47 - Peggy George
how do you all help parents to help their kids with homework?? :-)
56:53 - Kim Caise
http://www.csos.jhu.edu/p2000/staff.htm
56:56 - Bob
these are samples from my supervisors brother work
57:22 - Lorna Costantini 1
http://livebinders.com/play/play_or_edit?id=83641
57:49 - Peggy George
this Livebinder link has incredible resources for parenting in the 21st century :-)
57:52 - Bob
that is part of my dissertation work
58:05 - Peggy George
you'll spend hours exploring it and getting excited!
58:16 - Sheila
Should parents feel they have to help with homework? Some can't
58:22 - Peggy George
research, videos, PDF documents--fantastic stuff!
58:27 - Bob
I'm kinda getting anxious to graduate
58:33 - Peggy George
that was why I was asking that question Sheila :-)
59:07 - Kim Caise
i can relate @Bob
59:14 - Kim Howland
there is a role parents can still play around creating a place to do homework
59:15 - Peggy George
: how do you all help parents to help their kids with homework??
59:16 - Bob
Ahh for those parents that feel they can't do math, hopefully we'll be able to help ... even a little :)
59:20 - Kim Howland
support the time to do it
59:22 - Sheila
Peggy and I :)
59:22 - Peggy George
Sheila was responding to my question
59:38 - Kim Howland
and let them talk and share it with parents
59:50 - Peggy George
that was exactly what I was interested in hearing about!
1:00:03 - Peggy George
http://www.csos.jhu.edu/p2000/tips/index.htm
1:00:06 - Bob
it is so great to know there are professionals out there that care about parents as an important part of a child's educational process
1:00:14 - Peggy George
I agree Bob!
1:00:29 - Kim Howland
I agree too Bob :-)
1:00:42 - Bob
I get a feeling sometimes that I'm a little on the outside
1:00:52 - Bob
cause my focus isn't primarily teachers
1:01:11 - Bob
even though I'm in education
1:01:36 - Kim Howland
stay outside the box Bob... it will be a great outcome for our kids :-)
1:01:53 - Peggy George
and that's why the 6 kinds of involvement are so important--they don't always want to go to meetings to be involved but they all care about their kids' success and learning
1:02:04 - Kim Howland
bob my twitter is khforkids and we have a blog - 4Moms1Dream
1:02:10 - Rangel
This has been a very enlightening conversation. Thank you for helping bring it to light!
1:02:12 - Kim Howland
would love to stay in touch and talk more
1:02:21 - Bob
indeed
1:02:29 - Cameron
Thanks Joyce.
1:02:33 - Peggy George
fantastic conversation Joyce!!! Thank you so much for sharing your time and expertise with us!!
1:02:34 - Kim Caise
this was a fantastic session dr. epstein and lorna
1:02:38 - Kim Caise
thanks jose for streaming!
1:02:48 - Sheila
thanks for this opportunity!
1:02:52 - Bob
Thank You Dr Epstein :)
1:03:00 - Kim Caise
we appreciate you jose!
1:03:01 - Peggy George
what a bonus to have this streamed on EdTechTAlk too! Thanks Jose!
1:03:02 - Kim Howland
when will this be avaiable to share with others
1:03:20 - Bob
@ Kim: I don't twitter but will check blog
1:03:24 - Kim Caise
the links will be avialable shorlty at edtechtalk.com and at learncentral
1:03:25 - Jose Rodriguez
Thanks Lorna.. for this very important.. talk
1:03:28 - Kim Howland
thanks jose, peggy and lorna and Kim Caise
1:03:29 - Sheila
Check Lorna's site for the recording
1:03:32 - Jennifer Voorhees
Thanks Dr. Epstein. I enjoyed this sesson.
1:03:33 - Peggy George
The full recording with be posted on http://ourschool.ca and http://edtechtalk.com.
1:03:44 - Kim Caise
consider tweeting bob, lots of resources are shared in twitter
1:03:46 - Kim Howland
k thanks
1:03:54 - Jose Rodriguez
gotta run take care all
1:03:57 - Kim Caise
http://livebinders.com/play/play_or_edit?id=83641
1:03:58 - Bob
Ontario parent org. are good
1:04:00 - Peggy George
thanks to everyone in the chat for sharing your ideas and experienceQ great learning with you!
1:04:06 - Jose Rodriguez
night
1:04:07 - Rangel
Thanks!
1:04:09 - Kim Caise
night all
1:04:16 - Kim Howland
night all
1:04:24 - Bob
thank you and good night everyone :)
1:04:30 - Kim Caise
bye all
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