SEEDlings 2011-2-17 Show #108 John Lester and the Virtual Maine Group
alicebarr - Sat, 2011-02-19 23:45
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cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hello , getting sound ready
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hi Mary, Hi John
Mary OBrien -> Hi John!
John Lester -> heya!
bobsprankle -> hello all
John Lester -> howdy
Mary OBrien -> Hi Sheila1`
Sheila -> Hi all!
Mary OBrien -> Oh no Sheila
Sheila -> :)
Sheila -> :)!
Mary OBrien -> Hello Talvin
Talvin -> Good evening.
Sheila -> Wait that time already? Invaders!
John Lester -> heya Talvin
brendanwells -> hi,
Mary OBrien -> Hi Brendan - you must be a student with Mr S
Talvin -> Hey John. Obviously, I saw your Tweet.
John Lester -> groovy :)
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Good evening everyone
brendanwells -> Mr.Sprankle rocks
Mary OBrien -> Yes he does!
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Yea! mr. Sprankle
brendanwells -> Who are you mary oBrien?
Mary OBrien -> I am at teacher in Manchester
bobsprankle -> hi all!
brendanwells -> Nice to meet you.
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> You'll find out who everyone is in a minute
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Can you all hear
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hi Brendan,
brendanwells -> I can not hear
Sheila -> Oh, Mary, my first thought was Manchester, NH! Funny!
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Welcome students!
cheryloakes~seedlings -> BRandan, click on the sound symbols, itunes or realplayer
Mary OBrien -> I grew up in NH Sheila
cheryloakes~seedlings -> brendan sorry
Sheila -> :)
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> HI Jem
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hello Jem
Mary OBrien -> hi Jem
Jem -> hi!
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hello Talvin
Mary OBrien -> Reaction Grid people are great!
Kern -> Hi everyone!
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Have all of you students figured out too hear the sound?
Sheila -> http://reactiongrid.com/
brendanwells -> cool
Talvin -> Now you are talking about my area of interest. :)
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hello Cala
Mary OBrien -> Hi Cala
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Talvin, virtual worlds?
cala -> waves
brendanwells -> how do you make smily faces
bobsprankle -> Hi Brendan!!!!! So great to have you here!
Talvin -> Disabilities. Assistive Technology. I make in-world scripted Assistive and Accessible stuff.
Mary OBrien -> lol
bobsprankle -> Ask any questions you have!
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Talvin, I am so glad you are here!
Mary OBrien -> Type <LOL> and you get smiley face
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Wow Talvin welcome!
Mary OBrien -> without brackets
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hello nstrehlow
nstrehlow -> Hello
brendanwells -> this is cool lol
bobsprankle -> smiley is ":" and then ")"
nstrehlow -> <--Norma Underwood
John Lester -> hi Norma!
Mary OBrien -> hi Norma!
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Welcome nstrehlow
nstrehlow -> Hello everyonw
nstrehlow -> everyone
brendanwells -> oil spill
Mary OBrien -> Hi jokay
John Lester -> jokay! :)
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Hi jokay
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hi Norma,
jokay -> *waves* ;)
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hello Jokay
Talvin -> I dragged Jokay in here. :D
nstrehlow -> Hello Jokay and everyone
Sheila -> Where's the best place to view an example?
jokay -> hehe.. thanks talvin for the headsup ;)
nstrehlow -> Thanks for tweeting this was happening
Sheila -> System requirements? I see you need a download . . . .
brendanwells -> funlol
brendanwells -> :D
Mary OBrien -> I run on Imprudence....
brendanwells -> lol
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Imprudence works for me too
nstrehlow -> I use Hippo
brendanwells -> hippo are fun
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> @nstrehlow Mac or PC for hippo? I didn't have good luck on a Mac
nstrehlow -> PC
bobsprankle -> and hippo is a browser to use for Reaction Grid, Brendan
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Thanks
brendanwells -> kern :D
Kern -> Hi Brendan *waves*
nstrehlow -> Reaction Grid rocks!
brendanwells -> what does waves mean
Kern -> Just that, me waving to you :)
bobsprankle -> he is waving to you, brendan... just like in real life
brendanwells -> yes it does
brendanwells -> me 2
jokay -> hooray for opensim devs! they are amazing
cala -> first came the Proxy, then came LibSL, then came open source SL Viewer, then came opensim.
nstrehlow -> It's not as robust for the amount of avatars on any one area, but my kids are building like mad
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> @nstrehlow What grades?
nstrehlow -> I have 5th through 8th grade
brendanwells -> grade 5
Mary OBrien -> I love what you are doing on RG Norma..and my students love your shop at Gridizen Market
nstrehlow -> Thanks Mary. I have more stuff at the Island Depot also
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> @nstrehlow do you use it after schol or during school?
nstrehlow -> I have a Jr. High elective 8th hour every day
nstrehlow -> but some of my 5th graders have been in also
brendanwells -> dont stop beliven break your goal thats the purpose of life
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> That's great about moving betwen grids That was what was missing in Sl
nstrehlow -> I tried to come to the last one
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> @nstrehlow very progressive... Are you in a public school?
brendanwells -> yes
nstrehlow -> Yes Alice
Talvin -> In addition to my work on Disability Issues, I also homeschool our 6-year-old daughter. I have been surprised at how quickly she has adapted to JokaydiaGrid. She spent the last hour helping me do quality control on a major build, running around looking for gaps
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Very cool
brendanwells -> yay erin
bobsprankle -> Welcome, Erin!!!! So glad you are here!
Talvin -> And it is pushing her to become more literate.
jokay -> Info about the Hypergrid ADventurer's Club is @ http://becunningandfulloftricks.com/hypergrid-adventurers-club/
nstrehlow -> Hypergrids are so cool. Like Stargate
bobsprankle -> Brendan is here as well!
bobsprankle -> Any questions, Erin or Brendan?
Mary OBrien -> Glitchy is good!
jokay -> 4 now!!! ;)
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Wow Talvin. Have you heard of MeMoves, especailly if you homeschool.
brendanwells -> :)
Sheila -> Where's the best place to view an example.?
Talvin -> MeMoves? No, that's a new one on me.
brendanwells -> detroit
nstrehlow -> I felll through something the other day! :P
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> @cheryl Remind me to tell you a Memoves story
brendanwells -> a brick
John Lester -> here's more info on the Hypergrid Adventurers Club: http://becunningandfulloftricks.com/hypergrid-adventurers-club/
Kern -> Hi Erin
nstrehlow -> Oh that's awesome about the kids in the hospital
erinwells -> hi guys
brendanwells -> hi erin
Sheila -> Hospital - nice idea
nstrehlow -> http://pesdisland.blogspot.com/
John Lester -> more info on that project in Paris with kids in the hospital: http://fenetresurchambre.blogspot.com/
nstrehlow -> awesome idea
erinwells -> what are we talking about?
nstrehlow -> I wish my kids had access at home
brendanwells -> gum:D
Mary OBrien -> Talking about Reaction Grid Erin
brendanwells -> :D
jokay -> Image from our visit to see the kids sim here - http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokay/5431322582/ .. amazing build ;)
brendanwells -> :/
erinwells -> ok, thanks
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Sheila did you get your question answered?
brendanwells -> ;)
brendanwells -> *)
nstrehlow -> I write the check each month but it's worth it
Sheila -> I'm in a place by myself . . . don't know how to move . . . . looking arouond
nstrehlow -> lol
Mary OBrien -> It has a bit of learning curve Sheila
Mary OBrien -> use arrow keys Sheila
Sheila -> On a mac. doesn't work.
erinwells -> why not?
brendanwells -> life equals fun
brendanwells -> to maine
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Hold on we will be right backk
brendanwells -> how can i talk
erinwells -> what are you talking about brenndan
nstrehlow -> On the Reaction Grid it is all PG content
John Lester -> yep, all PG.
nstrehlow -> my kids have never seen anything inappropriate
brendanwells -> on the podcast
nstrehlow -> cept they came back with a beer once
Mary OBrien -> Brendan, you can only type
brendanwells -> ok
nstrehlow -> I have no qualms about kids in there
erinwells -> so what do we do in reaction grid?
nstrehlow -> I let a few third graders in already just for fun
Kern -> Hi Paul!!
Talvin -> I feel safer taking my child around in JokaydiaGrid than I do in taking her down to the south part of our city: the language and images are more appropriate.
brendanwells -> kids are smart the cappiltal of oregon is salem
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Have the students here used the reaction grid yet?
bobsprankle -> lol, brendan
bobsprankle -> any questions, erin? brendan?
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Tavlin, where are you located, if you don't mind?
brendanwells -> no
nstrehlow -> right, those are good guidelines
brendanwells -> live life
nstrehlow -> I barely have to give my kids any instruction. It's almost all exploratory
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Norma, that is the best instruction!!!
erinwells -> ya where is sam and kennzie?
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Norma, where do they give you feedback? Blog? chats?
John Lester -> Norma, your PESD project is simply brilliant. I show people your PESD island all the time. :)
jokay -> all teachable moments ... we have found the kids we've had at jokaydiagrid have been mostly great.. and learn fast what's appropriate
nstrehlow -> I had a 14 yr old boy lie that he was 18 to someone from Peru
brendanwells -> its mkenzee
nstrehlow -> Thanks John
erinwells -> sorry but spelling doesn't really matter here does it
Talvin -> One feature that would be nice to have is a way to *restrict* certain accounts from Hypergridding. If you are working in an environment where somebody (ahem!) has a region with instant hypergates scattered all over, a kid can just wander in and you suddenly have middle schoolers scattered to the four winds. :)
nstrehlow -> I like the RG because there are at least other places they can go safely and meet other people
brendanwells -> whats wrong about utube mrs .s
bobsprankle -> nothing, brendan. i love youtube
John Lester -> the idea is to have future versions of Hypergrid that will support that kind of granularity, Talivin.
nstrehlow -> I don't let my kids use IM but open chat they do not abuse and I tell them I can get a readout
erinwells -> utube isn't as restricted and anyone can go on
brendanwells -> what about facebook
erinwells -> that ether
nstrehlow -> kids used to type bad words using those plastic labels or look up bad words in a dictionary. Rights of passage
brendanwells -> talvin where do live
Talvin -> Brendan: East Coast US. :)
erinwells -> cool
brendanwells -> maine
nstrehlow -> <--Arizona
erinwells -> same
jokay -> *agrees* we have to give kids the space to learn digital literacy - which includes online safey and learning etiquette
nstrehlow -> I believe many of our students will not go to a building for college
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Talvin, back to MeMoves, it is a program designed for initially students with communication and learning problems, but now used in mainstream classes as well as resource rooms.
brendanwells -> talk about oliva bouler
erinwells -> ya its not fun to be locked out i speak from expereiance
Talvin -> I was on QuantumLink: The Commodore Connection (now AOL!) when I was 12 and 13. They had not really given much thought at all to kids online back then. Yet, we were there, and we survived.
nstrehlow -> But that was a parental problem as well
erinwells -> true
cheryloakes~seedlings -> At ATIA, the biggest group of online users ages 13-18
Sheila -> I use MeMoves in my 7th grade classes!
brendanwells -> this is a safe zone
nstrehlow -> I've been in for 3 years and would never want to stop
Talvin -> Cheryl: Thanks, I'll look it up. :)
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Glad to know Shelia, I will tell Chris and Roberta
erinwells -> this is fun and confusing
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Erin, there are many conversations happening at once, just like the lunchroom.
bobsprankle -> awesome, erin :)
nstrehlow -> Erin, can you hear the audio?
brendanwells -> oliva bouler and oilspill
erinwells -> how can you always tell who is answering you?
erinwells -> no
bobsprankle -> it does get tricky, erin
nstrehlow -> Erin put their name in your response
Mary OBrien -> @Erin, you can't always tell...
bobsprankle -> oh, but you need the audio!
bobsprankle -> do you have the instructions that i gave you?
jokay -> http://www.jvwresearch.org/
erinwells -> how am i sapose to hear the adeo?
erinwells -> ya
Sheila -> So best advice for paradigm shift?
bobsprankle -> clicking on the EDTECH TALK A
bobsprankle -> one of those icons
Sheila -> . . . to a virtual world?
bobsprankle -> prob. the color wheel one for you computer
nstrehlow -> kids don't need the paradigm shift, the teacher does
cheryloakes~seedlings -> At ATIA, people kept saying that we need to go where the kids are, not asking them or making them come to us.
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Shelia, your school had a nice TV story about your marine project
erinwells -> where did brenndan go/
bobsprankle -> can you hear now, erin?
Sheila -> tv story? must be elementary. Hmmm didn't know that.
erinwells -> no
nstrehlow -> That's a good question
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Hang on we'll be right back
John Lester -> speaking of augmented reality earlier, i recently wrote a blog piece about the intersection of virtual worlds and augmented reality: http://becunningandfulloftricks.com/2011/02/14/virtual-world-endgame-col...
Sheila -> @nstrehlow - advice for a teacher?
jokay -> woot.. i hear you all again ;)
Sheila -> How many in skype call? too many?
nstrehlow -> Sheila: embrace the virtual
nstrehlow -> :)
Mary OBrien -> What is limit Sheila
nstrehlow -> The kids don't need much training
Sheila -> I'm ready but first steps.
Sheila -> ?
nstrehlow -> be brave
nstrehlow -> make your avatar and go to some of the regions and just look around
nstrehlow -> if you know Second Life, there is no learning curve
Sheila -> Guess I'm not clear, was looking for advice for starting with classes.
Mary OBrien -> I agree Norma...SL skills carry over
nstrehlow -> I will be happy to talk to anyone in there
nstrehlow -> well you need a place to work if you want to build
nstrehlow -> my classes are small because it's not as robust
erinwells -> something just happened and i was logged out sorry
nstrehlow -> I have about 16 people in working at a time
cheryloakes~seedlings -> It must have been WCSH6 or WMTW 8
erinwells -> how do i here the talk
Sheila -> @cheryl Thanks. Will check it out.
jokay -> Four sources for pre-made virtual worlds http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/2009/11/four-sources-for-pre-made-virtu...
nstrehlow -> click on EdTech Talk A over on the right side of the screen
Sheila -> Thanks @jokay!
erinwells -> check
Mary OBrien -> Erin, at top of screen EdTech Talk A - one of icons under that
nstrehlow -> That's how I found out about the RG!
jokay -> opensim worlds particularly handy for educators.. some nice stuff from edusim there.. http://opensimworlds.com/index.php?part=worlds
Mary OBrien -> You are fast Norma
erinwells -> there are no icons where i am
Talvin -> Agreed: I took my daughter through Virtual Native Lands on a "Virtual Field Trip", but couldn't let her even touch the keys according to the TOS.
erinwells -> what
nstrehlow -> Yes, about all you could do is show them on a SMART Board
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Yes Talvin, we need to model best behavior
erinwells -> why
BenNBen -> Hello!
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Hi BennBen
Talvin -> But, I did have her paint her favorite part and I scanned it in and gave it to Nany Kayo, who hung it in her office. :)
erinwells -> hello
Talvin -> In OpenSim, I could have turned her loose and let her explore on her own.
cheryloakes~seedlings -> How nice. Talvin, how did you find us tonight?
BenNBen -> MsBarr--You've had a long night!
nstrehlow -> the Vincent Van Gogh Museum was awesome also
Talvin -> I follow John Lester in Twitter.
erinwells -> i still don't know how to here the talk
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Excellent. Nice to know the twitters work
bobsprankle -> yes! the van gogh! what a loss
BenNBen -> That's how I found it--Bob Sprankle's tweets
erinwells -> what
bobsprankle -> hi bens!
cheryloakes~seedlings -> Excellent use of Twitter.
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Hi BenNBen
nstrehlow -> Erin, on the right side of the screen is a box with EdTech TalkA and a little speaker you can click on
Talvin -> Bob: you are giving me a flashback to an old Peanuts comic strip. Snoopy's doghouse on fire while he weeps about his lost Van Gogh. ;)
bobsprankle -> LOL!
erinwells -> there is no boxwith edtech talk on it:(
Talvin -> That was a running gag for Schultz for a while. :)
nstrehlow -> One of the best things about Reaction Grid is that you do not have to pay 10 Linden everytime you upload a graphic
jokay -> hehe.. too true norma! ;)
BenNBen -> Mrs. Barr--Still waiting for Chris Toy!
nstrehlow -> My student art gallery would have cost me a fortune to do in SL
Mary OBrien -> So true Norma
erinwells -> what icon there is none
Mary OBrien -> Bummer erin!
BenNBen -> Pilgrimage to Orono!
nstrehlow -> Erin I see three little icons under the words EdTechTalk A so you can click on them and hear
Sheila -> Thanks all!
erinwells -> i kno it feels like i cant hear half of what you
erinwells -> re saying
nstrehlow -> Portaportal
John Lester -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0
bobsprankle -> no audio, erin?
erinwells -> what in the world happened there
BenNBen -> bit.ly
BenNBen -> that's my Geek of the Week
nstrehlow -> http://my.portaportal.com/
cheryloakes~seedlings -> good one BennBen
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> :0 ben!!
erinwells -> nope anyway mom says it is time for me to log off and go to bed
bobsprankle -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0
nstrehlow -> Wow, that is geeky
Talvin -> The best way to do that would be with shrinking and shifting prims. Your av remains the same size, but thinks shrink around you.
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Bye Erin
Mary OBrien -> Bye Erin
erinwells -> bye
bobsprankle -> http://www.buildyourwildself.com/
Talvin -> It should be doable. :)
nstrehlow -> oh I have those on my portal
nstrehlow -> my kids like to M&M themselves
cheryloakes~seedlings -> sounds like fun
bobsprankle -> www.questvisual.com
nstrehlow -> My students love that
Mary OBrien -> That is amazing Kern
nstrehlow -> wow
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Hang on once more
John Lester -> word lens is brilliant. mind-blowing, actually.
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Cool Kern
Kern -> Cool huh :)
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Sound will be right back
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> My geek of the week is
jokay -> back to work for me.. great to hear about your new adventures in opensim! *waves* to all
Mary OBrien -> Bye Jokay
John Lester -> take care, jokay. good to see you!
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> http://greecebook.socialgo.com/
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> http://www.adesontheweb.com/ADEs_on_the_Web/ADE_Hottest_Apps_Blog/ADE_Ho...
BenNBen -> MRS BARR FOR ADE
BenNBen -> VOTE4BARR
Kern -> Yes! She isn't already? :)
bobsprankle -> http://www.bullying.co.uk/index.php/make-a-poster.html
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> NO.... Not yet
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Apple Distinguished HS
bobsprankle -> http://venturebeat.com/2011/02/15/everloop-i-safe/
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Thanks kern :)
BenNBen -> HERE IS CHRIS
BenNBen -> WOOHOO
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Bye
cheryloakes~seedlings -> http://www.angelamaiers.com/2011/02/world-read-aloud-day-2011-words-chan...
bobsprankle -> thanks to all!
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Thanks everyone!
Mary OBrien -> Great show everyone!
Mary OBrien -> Nice to see you here Norma!
John Lester -> lots of fun. thanks everyone.
nstrehlow -> nice to see you also Mary
Kern -> Great to chat with everyone!
alicebarr (SEEDlings) -> Kern good to see you!
Kern -> Yes, I've really been away toooo long
nstrehlow -> Night
Talvin -> *waves!*
cheryloakes~seedlings -> thanks for joining us
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