Women of Web 2.0 Show 66
Welcome to our show! This is the viral show. No it is not a disease, it is how things spread on the internet using Web 2.0 tools. Actually this idea started with a couple teachers, twitter, some students, music and 48 hours later 667 comments! Does this sound like something you might be interested in? Join the Women of Web 2.0 and Kevin, George, Bill, Wendy, Sharon, Vicki and Cheryl for a great conversation. You will surely be Jazzed by this one!
The Chat has so many great links, grab the audio and read on!
20:35:03 georgemayo hi I'm early. :)
20:45:59 Kevin Hodgson Hey George!
20:47:17 Durff hi dogtrax
20:49:29 Vicki Davis Hi. Lisa.
20:50:08 Kevin Hodgson I'm here, too
20:50:16 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Hello all,
20:50:25 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Mrs. Durff, welcome and thanks for the twitter.
20:52:20 Durff $5 cheryl - hi Vicki
20:53:16 loonyhiker hi y'all
20:53:30 plugusin Hey Pat....Glad you're here!
20:53:38 loonyhiker thanks
20:53:51 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Hey Ryan, heard you have a new partner in crime.
20:53:57 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Congrats and fun!
20:54:19 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Hey CathyN
20:54:51 CathyNelson Warm greetings to you Cheryl O
20:55:35 CathyNelson And warm SC greetings to my fellow sc-ian Loonyhiker
20:55:39 ryanbretag @cheryloakes yep! He is at our sister in the role I play. There are a lot of expectations for us so GIDDY UP!
20:55:49 ryanbretag sister school that is
20:56:09 emapey @loonihiker Hi
20:56:24 loonyhiker thanks cathy :)
20:56:29 loonyhiker hi emapy
20:56:47 loonyhiker should be warm tomorrow in sc and i will be out hiking :)
20:56:50 Kevin Hodgson Hi everyone
20:57:09 CathyNelson will we have 70+ tonight?
20:58:25 cheryloakes wow 2.0 almost ready
20:59:05 dianeh hi folks! Have no voice but it doesn't matter here :-)
20:59:05 loonyhiker does anyone know the wiki address?
20:59:36 cheryloakes wow 2.0 we only have a delicious going tonight, Vicky and I are holding down the fort
20:59:49 Durff I hear you all on ETTA
20:59:57 loonyhiker okay
21:00:02 Vicki Davis hello veryone!
21:00:09 dianeh French
21:00:28 dianeh That's French
21:00:32 dianeh it's OK
21:00:38 emapey French??
21:00:39 Vicki Davis @KathyNelson -- I don't know but we'll have fun!
21:00:43 dianeh I'm trying to improve my French and
21:01:00 congerjan hello all...
21:01:07 dianeh That's as much as i got Vicki
21:01:13 dianeh Keep going
21:01:13 loonyhiker i heard typing last nite at SL :)
21:02:57 loonyhiker i don't think we can in greenville county
21:02:58 Vicki Davis OK, french.
21:03:09 Vicki Davis I'll try totype it n -- I'm trying to decide if I should post it on my blog.
21:03:34 Vicki Davis Are we streaming guys? Can you hear?
21:03:36 dianeh e-mail it to me: [email protected]
21:03:38 colettec sounds like Zamzar - it works great - but need pop up blocker
21:03:45 alicebarr yes can hear fine
21:03:49 James.Sigler Sounds fine
21:04:19 Vicki Davis http://m.fasfind.com/wwwtools /m/37951.cfm?x=0&rid=37951
21:04:24 loonyhiker i can hear
21:04:27 Vicki Davis http://m.fasfind.com/wwwtools/m/37951.cfm?x=0&rid=37951
21:04:53 cheryloakes wow 2.0 thanks vicki for putting the links in
21:05:07 alicebarr Will these links be on the delicious links?
21:05:12 Vicki Davis http://blog.wikispaces.com/2008/03/bringing-color-to-your-wiki.html
21:05:13 maureen youtube is not blocked
21:05:16 cheryloakes wow 2.0 if we can do it we will.
21:05:31 cheryloakes wow 2.0 delicious links will happen after the show.
21:05:36 Wendy Drexler Now I'm going to have to colorize my Wikispaces. :-)
21:05:54 Vicki Davis http://del.icio.us/brightideasguru
21:05:56 Art Gelwicks Ted Turner just bought Wikispaces...he'll do it for you.
21:05:57 Kevin Hodgson I always wondered why there wasn't color -- color is good for collaborative story writing
21:06:18 colettec yeah - color!!!!!
21:06:53 congerjan cool color! Love it!
21:07:08 Art Gelwicks My favorite color...light gray.
21:07:12 Kevin Hodgson I saw Vicki's delicious tags. Great resource. She went through 400-plus links? Holy Cow.
21:07:30 James.Sigler I'm just getting to do a project in wikispaces. Color now too! cool!
21:07:41 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Viral projects at WOW 2.0
21:07:43 Kevin Hodgson I'm scared about the number of my delicious links
21:07:54 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Kevin, be brave
21:08:02 Art Gelwicks Passed along Vicki's links right to our staff...did not pass go...did not collect $200.
21:08:12 CheriT Hello everyone
21:08:23 colettec you can subscribe to the links in your network - much easier to view in bloglines a few at a time
21:08:23 cheryloakes wow 2.0 hi cheri
21:08:33 CheriT hey Cheryl
21:08:43 CheriT Hi Alice
21:08:46 alicebarr Hi Cheri
21:08:53 dianeh I'm suffering from one
21:08:57 georgemayo found it- i need a new computer
21:09:01 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Kevin's links, http://teacheng.us/?page_id=43
21:09:21 cheryloakes wow 2.0 http://dogtrax.edublogs.org
21:09:31 dianeh Hi Kevin!
21:09:37 cheryloakes wow 2.0 http://epencil.edublogs.org
21:10:01 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Western MA writing project http://masswp.org/wmwpnews
21:10:29 cheryloakes wow 2.0 The video is at the epencil.edublogs.org site
21:10:37 Vicki Davis http://technorati.com/blogs/manyvoicesdarfur.blogspot.com/?reactions - "Waiting for the World to Get it Right"
21:11:02 Wendy Drexler That is SO cool!!
21:11:33 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Welcome to all in the Chat! This show is about Viral projects, Many Voices of Darfur.
21:12:15 lori a evening all
21:12:24 georgemayo met wendy through twitter, then at SLA
21:12:26 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Jen and Sharon are not here this evening, Sharon is with her folks in FL and Jen is holding down the fort at school for a tech evening.
21:12:27 colettec one of my journalism participated in the Darfur blog
21:13:15 Kevin Hodgson I love the possibilities of using the web and writing and moving into social action for young people. It gives them a forum.
21:14:04 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Hello all, if you are new here tonight, ask for help if you need it. We are broadcasting on ETTA at edtechtalk.
21:14:13 plugusin Action for kids equals advocacy
21:14:13 Durff phew- all blogs updated for student tomorrow - time to enjoy WOW2.0
21:14:21 Kevin Hodgson I think ease of use is crucial for most people, as George says.
21:14:26 cheryloakes wow 2.0 You will be able to hear the show on a podcast later in the week.
21:14:39 cheryloakes wow 2.0 I like that action for kids equals advocacy.
21:14:44 Durff hi sharon!
21:14:49 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Hello Sharon!
21:14:53 CheriT Hi Sharon
21:15:00 sharonp Hi folks - here at a Starbucks in Lakeland Florida jumping in
21:15:04 plugusin Advocacy is something that is easy for them to do with the web.
21:15:05 colettec i appreciated how easy it was to add post to blog
21:15:14 Durff mmm starbucks
21:15:15 colettec was able to share it with newbie teachers
21:15:17 alicebarr My students just loved the experience of commenting on the blog
21:15:18 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Yeah Sharon, glad you are here.
21:15:21 Vicki Davis @sharonp -- do you want us to call you in?
21:15:28 plugusin Do you think that web 2.0 tools can give us an opportunity to promote student leadership again?
21:15:30 sharonp we can try...
21:15:32 Vicki Davis It is just shocking what is happening in darfur.
21:15:41 Durff it is
21:15:43 loonyhiker it is awful
21:15:45 alicebarr They felt they had a voice and that were on the "same page" as others who commented.
21:15:56 Durff my learners all knew
21:15:57 Vicki Davis http://stopgenocide.edublogs.org
21:16:01 Vicki Davis The blog
21:16:05 Kevin Hodgson I have some discussions online with teachers who object to using Genocide and think we are irresponsible. What do people think?
21:16:11 alicebarr They are now trying to digest the comments and write up an action plan
21:16:20 Vicki Davis Talking about what Genocide is? @Kevin
21:16:25 sharonp it is time to start mobilizing web 2.0 tools for these kinds of impt issues
21:16:27 Durff irresponsible? how?
21:16:33 Vicki Davis WHAT?
21:16:35 Kevin Hodgson Talking about Darfur as genocide
21:16:44 Durff how else?
21:16:51 Durff it is what it is
21:17:09 Durff am i missing something?
21:17:11 Vicki Davis @Kevin -- still trying to understand that one -- lets talk about it.
21:17:14 suzievesper Afternoon all - in my time zone anyway
21:17:14 lindanitsche it is but parents want to shield their kids from the real world
21:17:28 Kevin Hodgson I'll try :)
21:17:37 Durff i'm not getting it
21:17:44 lindanitsche personal/public censorship of topics
21:17:54 loonyhiker sounds like that movie hotel rwanda
21:18:02 Durff how can one censor the truth?
21:18:12 Kevin Hodgson I agree. I agree.
21:18:45 cheryloakes wow 2.0 http://stopgenocide.edublogs.org
21:18:50 Kevin Hodgson I also struggled with balancing the reality with the ages of my students. How far do you go?
21:18:51 Vicki Davis @loonyhiker -- it is!
21:18:57 KarenJan genocide is a powerful word - the Turks still deny that their treatment of the Armenians was a genocide (I'm half Armenian)
21:19:02 Kevin Hodgson I think I did a good balance, though.
21:19:08 cheryloakes wow 2.0 http://manyvoicesdarfur.blogspot.com
21:19:13 colettec students feel empowered when they use web 2.0 tools about social issues - they have a real audience
21:19:15 Durff ithink the kids will let you know
21:20:34 sharonp So great to see you all here for this impt issue!
21:20:54 cheryloakes wow 2.0 see how important twitter to this viral project!
21:20:55 colettec i loved the blog comments about how the student would tell a student from Darfur what the world is doing about the issue
21:21:01 Vicki Davis I picked up on the project through Twitter ON THURSDAY! And we didn't have school on Friday!
21:21:06 Vicki Davis Amazing project.
21:21:19 sharonp This issue, and many like it, really give us an opportunity to leverage the "network" and use it for very valuable reasons!
21:21:35 cheryloakes wow 2.0 this is real work for our students!
21:21:39 loonyhiker bill is the reason i got on twitter!
21:21:43 sharonp Kids love to know they are empowered
21:21:43 congerjan I would not have know without twiter...
21:21:54 Kevin Hodgson Simple set-up, as Bill says. Again, key for most teachers not quite ready for Web 2.0 but interesting in entering the conversation
21:22:02 sharonp they need reasons to think outside themselves and contribute to a better tomorrow
21:22:48 lindanitsche Simple and powerful
21:22:50 georgemayo http://guysread.typepad.com/theblurb/ THE BLURB
21:22:51 Kevin Hodgson I started hearing about Many Voices for Darfur from blogs, and then Twitter, and then Teachers Teaching Teachers. I knew something cool was going on.
21:23:01 cheryloakes wow 2.0 http://guysread.typepad.com/theblurb/
21:23:33 plugusin Darfur Voicethread: http://ed.voicethread.com/share/62276/
21:23:34 georgemayo http://stopgenocide.wikispaces.com/
21:23:50 georgemayo vicki- could you put some of those on wiki http://stopgenocide.wikispaces.com/
21:24:25 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Good point Sharon, this allows for students to have a powerful voice.
21:24:30 georgemayo Vicki, paul allison also helped us a lot
21:24:37 Vicki Davis http://westwood.wikispaces.com/Stop+Genocide+in+Darfur -- Look at the photograph on this page
21:24:53 cfoote Hello all
21:24:54 plugusin Leadership means identify your values, then take action on those values.
21:24:55 Vicki Davis Paul is such a wonderful advocate -- he talked about it on teachers teaching teachers last week too!
21:25:08 sharonp This is so special.....this really gives teachers a REASON for using the very cool tools of the INternet
21:25:16 lindanitsche So well said Sharon!
21:25:30 cfoote MrMayo--how many comments did you all end up with? I've been gone.
21:25:35 Kevin Hodgson Paul and Susan Ettenheim do a great job (and crew)
21:25:37 Vicki Davis Youth voices is wonderful!
21:25:43 Durff @Vicki Love that pic - 'tis powerful
21:25:47 Vicki Davis over 600 @cfoote
21:25:58 loonyhiker it is great for kids around the world to come together for an important cause
21:26:15 cfoote Wow, great.
21:26:24 sharonp there is a lot of sensitivity around the word "genocide"
21:26:28 georgemayo http://manyvoicesdarfur.blogspot.com/2008/02/many-voices-for-darfur.html 677 comments
21:26:32 plugusin Motivation was incredibly high for students because they knew our work was real.
21:26:33 sharonp some think it should be reserved for the Holocaust
21:26:43 colettec its much easier for us teachers to participate in smaller, collaborative projects like the Many Faces of Darfu. Easy to fit in our schedule and not as intimidating
21:26:44 Durff but sharon that is the word
21:26:44 georgemayo 677 comments in 2 days
21:26:51 Wendy Drexler Kids Galore Helping Kids in Darfur - 06/07 3rd grade Darfur Project http://www.shorecrest.org/Darfur.html
21:26:53 Vicki Davis Let your students comment -- there is still room!
21:26:54 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Wow, George, that is a huge number of comments 677! in less than 2 weeks.
21:27:02 Vicki Davis Try 2 days!
21:27:03 sharonp I think it should certainly be extended to any movement that desires the extinction of antoher people group
21:27:05 georgemayo 2 days
21:27:10 georgemayo 48 hours
21:27:18 cheryloakes wow 2.0 in wow 48 ho urs, amazing
21:27:23 cheryloakes wow 2.0 so powerful
21:27:25 Durff it was said never again - and it is happening again
21:27:26 sharonp that is incredilbe
21:27:32 sharonp the numbers
21:27:33 lindanitsche How did you handle it with your students and parents Wenday?
21:27:37 Durff we NEED to use the word genocide
21:27:44 georgemayo the commenst are very good- a real testament to the teachers doing quality teaching
21:27:52 Durff wake people up if necessary
21:27:54 cfoote Interesting that there was a question about the word genocide.
21:27:57 georgemayo and students stepping up
21:27:59 cheryloakes wow 2.0 right Durff, we need to be explicit
21:28:05 georgemayo as they always do!
21:28:06 cfoote if you look at definition, this is genocide.
21:28:12 Wendy Drexler I sent home information in my newsletter. I had 100% support from parents
21:28:14 Durff yes
21:28:22 sharonp Just finished reading Three Cups of Tea - A MUST MUST MUST read for any teacher
21:28:25 plugusin What I like about commenting is that it is a source of prewriting/free writing. Short, approachable bits of text.
21:28:26 loonyhiker people avoiding talking about genocide is part of the problem. we can't sweep it under the rug
21:28:33 Durff sharon - url?
21:28:40 sharonp one sec, Lisa??
21:28:46 cfoote well said, @mrmayo
21:29:12 sharonp threecupsoftea.com
21:29:13 georgemayo The issue also resonated quickly w/ my 8th graders,
21:29:18 suzievesper Great use of the tools - I'm running a workshop for 25 teachers who work with 11 and 12 year olds tomorrow - will be using all of these examples - thanks! Very powerful.
21:29:21 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Great job Wendy explaining how you started this project with parents and kids.
21:29:22 cfoote @sharonp Have been wanting to read that.
21:29:27 Durff thanks sharon
21:29:29 cfoote Hi Wendy!
21:29:37 Vicki Davis When you start looking at it, it is stunning! Shocking! Horrific!
21:29:42 Kevin Hodgson My students were appalled and angry at what is happening. (I avoided rape, too)
21:29:48 plugusin Our pledge to fight genocide: http://guysread.typepad.com/theblurb/2008/02/a-resolution-on.html
21:29:57 Vicki Davis We talked about rape but I have 10th graders and 9th graders.
21:30:16 cfoote I think it is good to raise awareness, because there are many adults that don't know a lot about it either.
21:30:16 Durff we avoided nothing in our discussions
21:30:21 Kevin Hodgson Darfur Drawn -- my students were silent as they looked at it and read the captions. Really powerful.
21:30:24 cfoote including some teachers.
21:30:30 sharonp I say this as a friend of my American colleagues, but Americans do NOT have a good rep internationally - this is SUCH an opportunity to show that you have heart and you do care....
21:30:38 colettec kids hear about rape on the news all the time - you can use the term "sexual assault" instead
21:30:52 Durff i wouldn
21:30:57 Durff would not
21:31:01 colettec i teach HS
21:31:03 loonyhiker i dont think we should sugar coat words
21:31:12 Durff i agree loony
21:31:23 plugusin http://ed.voicethread.com/share/62276/
21:31:24 cfoote wow, great Wendy
21:31:43 Wendy Drexler Darfur Drawn http://www.hrw.org/photos/2005/darfur/drawings/introduction.htm
21:31:49 cfoote I posted about the darfur project on my blog to publicize it :)
21:31:59 cfoote I was so impressed by the comments.
21:32:03 Durff i got the most in depth comments from those kids on this project in a long while
21:32:20 Durff i had 6th-8th
21:32:24 sharonp we really need our students to see that these genocides continue even to this day
21:32:28 Vicki Davis @cfoote -- so you were part of it.
21:32:32 cfoote I wonder how the three of you got together to work on this? via twitter?
21:32:50 sharonp too often, we teach about the Holocaust that happened "back then"
21:33:02 sharonp We are not so enlightened that we have moved on
21:33:03 Vicki Davis At Educon in Philadelphia - George and Wendy met.
21:33:17 Durff it didn't - it happened to my parents
21:33:21 loonyhiker have tried to tell students that intolerance continues today and isn't just in history
21:33:29 Durff mine - not back then
21:33:38 cfoote http://futura.edublogs.org/2008/03/06/can-third-graders-change-the-world/
21:33:44 sharonp Kids wrestling on "big ideas" - how much more authentic is that in learning??
21:33:58 Durff and they do
21:34:01 Kevin Hodgson I agree -- authentic thinking and writing and action
21:34:05 cheryloakes wow 2.0 looneyhiker, this is a perfect way to demonstrate how history repeats
21:34:06 cfoote @vickidavis Wow..that's great. I met Wendy there but not George.
21:34:10 Durff they surprise us
21:34:20 sharonp We are talking about tomorrow's leaders, tomorrow's voters, tomorrow's change-makers in our society!
21:34:33 lindanitsche @cfoote Same here
21:34:34 cfoote good idea to tie it into what they already know. Such sophisticated way to have students relate history to current events.
21:34:39 Durff our caretakers
21:34:44 loonyhiker have y'all seen this site: www.tolerance.org
21:34:54 cfoote I have to go finish cooking dinner ;)
21:35:02 Kevin Hodgson Now that blogging part is over, my students are working on ways to move their writing into action. We were planning some fundraising activities to help the refugees.
21:35:02 cheryloakes wow 2.0 looneyhiker, this is a great site, and great magazine
21:35:02 cfoote great project, all. Very powerful!
21:35:03 Durff i need coffee
21:35:13 cheryloakes wow 2.0 hi chris harbeck, welcome
21:35:20 sharonp great stuff, Kevin - keep us in touch with what happens next!
21:35:23 loonyhiker i like to ask students, what would happen if this happened here and how would u want the world to react
21:35:35 colettec plus Voicethread can be even more powerful because we "hear" the actual voices of the kids who comment - some are very passionate
21:35:47 Vicki Davis So twitter is helping us network to help classrooms add their voices to real issues.
21:36:08 sharonp twitter rocks .... how long would it have taken if we had used email or even just skype a year ago?
21:36:08 plugusin technology has broken down the walls that separate me from the colleagues in my own building and connected me to teachers around the world.
21:36:15 cheryloakes wow 2.0 , looney, that is what I think as an adult, if only we had known about the Holocaust, it would be different, well here is Darfur, how different can we make it
21:36:17 charbeck hi everyone
21:36:20 Kevin Hodgson I am a month into Twitter and already, I am blown away by the network.
21:36:21 Vicki Davis @sharonp - it wouldn't have worked!
21:36:54 loonyhiker twitter is so powerful. that is where i heard about vicki's horizon project
21:37:35 suzievesper As long as people keep their followers and friends ratio fairly even. I'm suziea on Twitter btw :-)
21:37:37 jeff dungan hey all I agree twitter is amazing. The links I get turned onto alone is mind boggling
21:37:43 plugusin The lesson learned for kids is that they have power through their voice...and that power is equal to that of anyone.
21:37:49 sharonp you talk about the indifference or apathy of students - every generation is the same - teens need to know they make a difference - harnessing the tools and environments of the Internet gives them a chance to see results even faster than ever before
21:38:02 charbeck kids just get hooked with collaberation
21:38:07 Vicki Davis I'm coolcatteacher -- I have to add my followers but you can also set it so everyone who replies @coolcatteacher to show up even if not in my network.
21:38:15 lindanitsche We need to help teens find ways to see beyond themselves
21:38:17 Vicki Davis Kids get excited and love it.
21:38:26 sharonp and I am @speters on twitter - the same....
21:38:35 loonyhiker @suziea now i'm following you! i'm loonyhiker
21:38:49 colettec follow me @ccassinelli and i will follow you :)
21:38:50 Vicki Davis I had a student who spent 45 minute on this picture -- everyone does what they can - http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/hcj2010/Darfur/Darfur_poster1copy...
21:38:59 lindanitsche When we do- they are a force that makes a difference
21:39:09 jeff dungan when kids are passionate they get interested, when they get interested they learn and grow.
21:39:31 James.Sigler You can't this passion about an issue from a textbook
21:39:41 colettec i agree james
21:39:53 plugusin My kids first question after Many Voices Darfur was, "What are we going to make our next cause, Mr. F?"
21:39:53 pgoerner @vicki- nice job on the pic
21:39:59 cheryloakes wow 2.0 James, great point.
21:40:03 loonyhiker isn't engaged learning what we are all about?
21:40:04 lindanitsche Real life- audience makes the difference
21:40:05 Kevin Hodgson Great point -- We talked about how they can view the country they live in and how fortunate they are.
21:40:29 Vicki Davis @pgoerner - A 10th Grader did this!
21:40:33 charbeck back to the hair commercial and they tell two fiends and so on and so on ... long live the network
21:40:41 sharonp What are we going to make our next cause...?? Wow, what an opportunity - there are so many, where to begin??
21:40:43 loonyhiker maybe it makes students grateful for what they have too
21:40:47 pgoerner @vicki very nice
21:40:48 Vicki Davis My parents were SOOOOO excited about this project. The students went home and talked about it.
21:40:54 jeff dungan teachers who are passionate bring it to their kids. Great project george I have been following you from the DR
21:41:06 Vicki Davis @sharonp -- I think we should take this one further.
21:41:10 colettec the "issues" don't have to be global - they can choose issues in their school, community
21:41:23 sharonp @vicki - and you know I have ideas!!
21:41:24 James.Sigler It's not just about what they remember this year. It's what they remember after they leave
21:41:47 Wendy Drexler My parents were extremely supportive. We raised over $6000 last year. For this project, parents were emailing me throughout the 48 hour blog. They were blown away.
21:41:48 colettec last year my HS student recorded podcast complaining that soda machines were being removed from our school - they were passionate
21:41:48 Vicki Davis @colettec -- I have an action project planned with Julie Lindsay in Qatar and Barbara Stefanics in Austria -- where the students are required to act -- not ready to talk too much about yet.
21:41:55 sharonp how tragic!
21:41:57 jeff dungan essential understandings and enduring meaning in learning...what a concept:)
21:42:19 sharonp testing outrules real projects that beg for our students' interests and passions!
21:42:29 Wendy Drexler As with anything we do, it helps to over-communicate, acknowledge the conerns and focus on the benefits.
21:42:29 cheryloakes wow 2.0 good point Kevin, getting your admin involved along with your class
21:42:37 Wendy Drexler Concerns
21:42:38 Vicki Davis And the students were writing -- what a way to get them to write -- but really the writing seems such a non issue in the light of what they are talking about.
21:42:42 lindanitsche I have my fifth graders take on action projects in the school, community each year-
21:42:48 Vicki Davis Writing to evoke emotion and action! Wow!
21:42:56 Durff yeah, i didn't have elementary students those days
21:42:57 lindanitsche It is amazing how hard they work to make a real difference
21:43:07 Vicki Davis It is so amazing about this -- and educon was how long a go? How fast did this happen?
21:43:13 Wendy Drexler I had parents sending in newspaper articles with their kids.
21:43:33 plugusin Hey George or Wendy: Who moderated all 600 comments!
21:43:42 cheryloakes wow 2.0 We are so fortunate that all our guests were able to be part of the conversation tonight.
21:43:44 Wendy Drexler Mostly George - he was a machine.
21:43:44 plugusin Many thanks to them...what a chore...
21:43:45 James.Sigler @ sharonp Does more for our students: writing about real projects or testing?
21:43:52 Wendy Drexler We were both moderators.
21:43:58 Vicki Davis OK, so they want advice: Where do they go next with Many Voices for Darfur?
21:44:14 cheryloakes wow 2.0 evening arthus!
21:44:15 colettec did you encourage the parents to add comments to the blog??
21:44:47 sharonp @James - testing for our students... what will they remember in a month, a year, ten years? versus an opportunity like this??
21:44:59 Durff good qt Vicki
21:45:00 cheryloakes wow 2.0 absolutely, Sharon!
21:45:13 plugusin That is typical...I've never had any inappropriate content in years of digital dialogue with kids.
21:45:15 lindanitsche they will remember the pain and suffering of tests only
21:45:15 Vicki Davis Chat room - what is next? Your advice?
21:45:20 cheryloakes wow 2.0 any questions from the chat room for our guests?
21:45:25 sharonp @linda - hah!
21:45:29 colettec limited technology is a problem - but why not make it a "home" work project and have the kids and parents do it together
21:45:51 cheryloakes wow 2.0 yes, kids and parents
21:46:09 loonyhiker what a great example to fight fear in the school on using tech tools
21:46:22 plugusin That's amazing....Planned in no time, remarkable success...
21:46:39 plugusin I've never even seen George's face!
21:46:42 Kevin Hodgson Yes on getting publicity. I am getting our regional newspaper to publish some of the student writing and podcasts for the Darfur project. It usually takes a phone call (says the former newspaper reporter)
21:46:51 cheryloakes wow 2.0 This type of project really was quite simple yet wide reaching.
21:46:53 sharonp how can this be such a hard sell to our admins? Global citizenship, international issues, writing skills, ICT skills....??
21:47:12 sharonp @kevin - go for it!!
21:47:33 pgoerner @kevin how do you get the newspaper to publish podcasts? Online I imagine
21:47:35 cheryloakes wow 2.0 great question Vicki
21:47:55 Kevin Hodgson Yes -- the newspaper has a blog :)
21:48:01 Vicki Davis there is not for me either -- I get a lot of freedom.
21:48:03 lindanitsche They can wear very narrow blinders.
21:48:07 pgoerner @kevin- this is a great idea
21:48:09 sharonp @kevin - great to hear about newspaper blog
21:48:20 sharonp @kevin - would think they would eat this up
21:48:24 Vicki Davis Getting room to maneuver is issue.
21:48:27 loonyhiker schools need to be flexible for modify and adjust
21:48:45 lindanitsche Who actually asked their curriculum director?
21:48:48 James.Sigler They need to include current events as a part of the currculum
21:48:55 Durff I changed the days plan at the last minute
21:49:11 Durff this project was that important
21:49:24 suzievesper Great tip about allowing all @replies to be visible in Twitter - thanks! New Zealand curriculum is moving away from those two year cycles of topics. The new curriculum is allowing a lot more freedom and more of a contextual rather than content approach. We are quite excited about it here in NZ.
21:49:43 sharonp @suzievesper - similarly here in Quebec
21:49:48 plugusin I never ask permission!
21:49:51 sharonp I think it is quite exciting
21:49:53 colettec the curriculum should be based on critical thinking, creativity, real audience, like the new NET*S for students
21:49:57 lindanitsche @suzievesper Can you share a link?
21:50:00 James.Sigler That flexiblity is exciting
21:50:06 LisaMLane 'tis better to ask forgiveness than permission
21:50:18 Durff i'm computer
21:50:31 cheryloakes wow 2.0 These projects flourish with supportive administrators.
21:50:39 loonyhiker i was a special ed teacher. projects like this really are great for sped kids because it is hands on, visual, and auditory
21:50:39 James.Sigler @colettec yes!
21:50:41 sharonp @Lisa and plugusin - yes!
21:50:43 Vicki Davis I always inform the administrators and curriculum directors.
21:50:44 lindanitsche curriculum here is still being directed by state standards which encompass much more that can possibly be accomplished
21:50:51 plugusin Anyone read High Noon: 20 Global Problems and 20 Years to Solve Them?
21:51:02 suzievesper http://nzcurriculum.tki.org.nz/
21:51:03 Wendy Drexler I read High Noon - great book.
21:51:07 plugusin Should that be the focus of our work in classrooms?
21:51:20 LisaMLane directives tend to focus on specific content, rather than how to manage content
21:51:30 lindanitsche I have a supportive principal and administration
21:51:42 Durff never heard of a cultural literacy worksheet
21:51:49 James.Sigler @lindanitsche Exactly, curriculums is too often a mile wide and an inch deep
21:51:51 Durff how absurd
21:52:17 sharonp @James - well put!
21:52:21 jeff dungan curriculums kill passion so do text books
21:52:29 lindanitsche Being able to explain your purpose and goal is really the significant issue
21:52:37 Vicki Davis Curricula is important but we need flexibility AND a plan.
21:52:46 Durff i don't have textbooks
21:53:00 plugusin I'm down with "action they can see," but that's so much easier with technology now. Page views, subscribers etc.
21:53:09 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Thanks to all in the chat room tonight. This show will be a podcast by Thurs. at www.edtechtalk.com
21:53:14 colettec we are global citizens - you could plan for a global project every year and just change the topic
21:53:23 cheryloakes wow 2.0 The chat will be available by then as well.
21:53:26 sharonp @cheryl - you rock! Thanks for doing that for us!
21:53:36 cheryloakes wow 2.0 you got it.
21:53:44 plugusin @colettec : Or continue to extend the same project.
21:53:54 sharonp Vicki we need to tap into that energy before the issue loses its lustre
21:53:55 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Any questions from the chat for our guests?
21:53:56 suzievesper depends on the curricululm! We seem to have quite an open system here in NZ compared to other countries. Schools can decide what gets blocked not area administrators. Combine with a lot of freedom within the curiculum means that there are quite a few teachers here getting into web 2.0
21:54:09 janices @cheryoakes kudos for getting last week's webcast out in 1 day! Wow!
21:54:19 cheryloakes wow 2.0 it was a trick!
21:54:27 sharonp @janice - I agree - kudos to cheryl
21:54:31 Kevin Hodgson Devil's Advocate: how do we get our kids to read through 600 plus comments? Is it about numbers? Or ... I say this in full support of what we did but I wonder about what to do with the blog now. You know?
21:54:31 cheryloakes wow 2.0 less editing, more just get it done!
21:54:38 sheila In Belize, they use a book called, One World, Many Issues. I've tried to use it with my students.
21:54:50 sharonp @Kevin - ask your students to find the NEXT issue....
21:55:10 Vicki Davis @kevin -- how about other kids looking through it and reflecting.
21:55:13 sharonp @Kevin - let them choose, what is next for ME?
21:55:18 Vicki Davis I wondered if it shouldn't have been on a discussion board.
21:55:29 Kevin Hodgson Yes, but leave the Darfur days behind?
21:55:34 Kevin Hodgson Of course not
21:55:48 James.Sigler @ Kevin skimming is one form of reading to use on the web, but it needs to be taught and developed
21:55:49 colettec wouldn't it be cool to keep a time-based blog or wiki to address these global issues and over the years you could reflect on the issues you have covered
21:55:53 cheryloakes wow 2.0 I th ink your kids would rebel if you left Darfur behind.
21:56:29 Kevin Hodgson Yes -- true, which is why we are continuing to find avenues to support the refugees
21:56:43 Vicki Davis OK, so who wants to take this for next month? Is there anyone?
21:56:54 Kevin Hodgson Package the comments and ship to the Sudan Gov't
21:56:55 James.Sigler What do you do with the blog once the year is over?
21:57:02 colettec why can't the reflection piece happen over time - months later - to see if the issue has changed or not?
21:57:05 Wendy Drexler [email protected]
21:57:08 Durff anyone count those in chat room this evening?
21:57:14 Vicki Davis 30 something.
21:57:19 plugusin [email protected] @plugusin
21:57:19 cheryloakes wow 2.0 I counted about 36
21:57:21 Durff cool
21:57:25 sharonp How about raising some funds for Darfur?
21:57:31 georgemayo [email protected]
21:57:45 georgemayo Thanks WOW!
21:57:49 Kevin Hodgson Yes, Sharon. Maybe my students could take the lead and get other classes involved?
21:57:51 Vicki Davis @sharonp - It sounds like Wendy is goign to do that also.
21:57:52 James.Sigler I can actually keep up with the chat this week. Yeah!
21:57:52 colettec i like the idea of moving it to a bulletin board - then you could organize it by topics
21:58:06 Wendy Drexler Thank for having us.
21:58:13 Vicki Davis I hope that some others will look at this and consider this for their school.
21:58:14 loonyhiker this was a wonderful chat!
21:58:16 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Amazing James.
21:58:16 Wendy Drexler I thank George - he is SO creative!
21:58:18 sharonp @Kevin - yes..... perhaps dream up some fun fundraisers
21:58:19 loonyhiker and a wonderful talk
21:58:24 plugusin Huge thanks to George and Wendy for their great project idea.
21:58:36 Kevin Hodgson Any ideas for web-based fundraising activities?
21:58:45 James.Sigler @ Cheryl :)
21:58:53 Vicki Davis @kevin - Beth katner has the ideas -- I'll have to pull out some links..
21:59:09 dianeh There's too much to listen to!
21:59:27 georgemayo http://manyvoicesdarfur.blogspot.com/ http://manyvoicesdarfur.blogspot.com/2008/02/many-voices-for-darfur.html http://stopgenocide.wikispaces.com/
21:59:29 Wendy Drexler We had a fundraiser for UNICEF on the Kids Galore Site. I'm presenting that project at NECC. That might add more steam.
21:59:34 dianeh I'd like to help with this.
21:59:34 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Thanks for the great ideas this evening.
21:59:42 sharonp @Wendy - great stuff - so pleased to hear!
21:59:43 georgemayo great idea Vicki!
21:59:45 Durff Kevin why not put the original blog + comments in a lulu book and sell it with profit going to Dafur refugees
21:59:56 Kevin Hodgson I thought of LULU. George?
21:59:57 Vicki Davis @Durff - I love that.
21:59:59 James.Sigler This is a great model project for Web 2.0 learning
22:00:03 sheila @durff - great idea!
22:00:20 colettec My plug: please add any Voicethread projects to a wiki at http://voicethread4education.wikispaces.com --- one of the Darfur voicethreads is already there
22:00:24 James.Sigler @ Durff Great idea!
22:00:25 sharonp I really have to go soon!
22:00:39 dianeh Thanks so much everyone! So much to think about!
22:00:41 Durff take care sharon
22:00:44 sharonp But what a great night! I was soooo glad to be here - the energy and passion is so palpable
22:00:49 sharonp you guys made my week!
22:00:54 cheryloakes wow 2.0 Thanks for being herefor a great show.
22:00:56 Wendy Drexler Thank you to everyone for listening.
22:01:01 plugusin Night, All!
22:01:04 georgemayo thanks again wow! :)
22:01:16 suzievesper Great show - glad to be able to made it (not in classes for a change :-)
22:01:26 Kevin Hodgson Thanks for having us and thanks to George and Wendy. See ya on Twitter and other networks.
22:01:31 Vicki Davis Oh, oh!
22:01:38 georgemayo bye
22:01:43 sendkathy what about Blurb.com
22:01:48 alicebarr There is a web 2.0 tool that publishes a blog in to a book...
22:01:59 sendkathy blurb import the entire blog
22:02:00 alicebarr Hold on I'll see if I can find it
22:02:01 Durff just copy into Word
22:02:03 sendkathy with comments
22:02:04 sharonp We have a great guest lined up in two weeks
22:02:18 Wendy Drexler Nite all.
22:02:18 Vicki Davis DANAH BOYD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:02:35 janices Thanks all. Stimulating conversation and topic.
22:02:48 alicebarr Yes my students are coming for sure!
22:02:57 cheryloakes wow 2.0 thanks for listening this evening.
22:03:21 colettec thanks again WOW
22:03:21 sheila See you next week! Thanks WOW!
22:03:23 Vicki Davis Goodnight everyone!
22:03:23 loonyhiker bye y'all
22:03:26 lindanitsche Thank you all! Night!
22:03:32 cheryloakes wow 2.0 thanks for being here. good night.
22:03:35 Vicki Davis It has been a wonderful show tonight!
22:03:53 James.Sigler Great show! :)
22:03:55 James.Sigler Night all
22:04:07 Durff nite all!
22:04:11 PeggyG WOW-powerful sharing tonight with lots of things to think about-Thanks to all for modeling and inspiring critical thinking for all of us and for taking the risk to carry out such a meaningful project with your students!
22:04:13 emapey Good night everyone!!!
22:04:34 emapey Danah Boyd When????????
22:05:12 Vicki Davis March 25th
22:05:19 Vicki Davis @mapey - march 25 -- in TWO WEEKS!
22:05:24 Vicki Davis She has been tough to get!
22:05:26 emapey Thxs
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