EdTechWeekly#41 - Multiverse, Panraven, Tangler, Grub, & Educational Wikis
EdTechWeekly #41
August 5, 2007
This Week's Del.icio.us Links
Chat Log Below
18:37:31 JenMad -> Hey, John!
18:37:55 JohnSchinker -> Hi Jen
18:49:42 JenMad -> Hi, JW
18:50:18 JenniferW -> Hi Friends
18:51:17 dave -> yoyo
18:51:32 JenniferW -> Use CHIPIN to get some $$$$
18:51:53 JenniferW -> andpersonally -- I ignore google ads
18:52:00 JenniferW -> LOL -- voting now
18:52:13 JohnSchinker -> Right. But that doesn't mean that they don't get paid for them.
18:52:37 JohnSchinker -> Destruction is more fun than construction, Dave
18:52:59 JenniferW -> took me 8 months to make $100
18:53:06 JenniferW -> a friend makes $5400 a month
18:53:11 JenniferW -> not sure what I am doing wrong
18:53:12 JenniferW -> :)
18:53:27 JohnSchinker -> You're telling people that no one reads Google ads.
18:53:45 JenniferW -> on my site -- YES -- on my friends site -- they seem to read them
18:53:48 JenMad -> I love ads on websites ... who doesn't?
18:54:15 JenniferW -> I am doing very well being an Amazon Affliate
18:54:20 JohnSchinker -> Demolition is more fun: http://www.flickr.com/photos/raindog/778831347/
18:54:27 JenniferW -> you should put books on your site -- you get a payback for each book bough
18:54:31 JenniferW -> bought
18:54:41 JenMad -> JW: really? through refs. to books and stuff?
18:54:47 JenniferW -> YES
18:54:54 JenMad -> cool!
18:54:58 JenniferW -> like for Leopard -- I will make $30 per each system purchased
18:55:06 JenniferW -> when it comes out -- if anyone buys it from my site
18:55:16 JohnSchinker -> Hello, mthacher
18:56:35 Cathy E -> Webcast Academy Page looks great :)
18:56:39 JenMad -> Hi, Cathy E!
18:56:42 JenniferW -> I twittered too --
18:56:50 JohnSchinker -> sure, I can do it if there's sufficient interest
18:57:42 JenniferW -> all sounds OKAY here
18:57:48 mthacher -> nope, sounds good here
18:58:03 JenMad -> thank you!
18:59:30 JohnSchinker -> http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=121712176
19:00:16 JohnSchinker -> let's do video this week :-)
19:00:19 AliceMercer -> Okay, who wins the award for biggest PITA among the interns
19:00:25 AliceMercer -> THis week?
19:00:41 AliceMercer -> Just try to MUTE ME!
19:00:47 AliceMercer -> I tend to mute myself.
19:01:01 JohnSchinker -> One world
19:01:21 JohnSchinker -> world of (education and technology)
19:01:22 sroseman -> world of
19:01:25 JenniferW -> I mute myself too Alice
19:01:41 AliceMercer -> Dave, I would cancel that appt in Holland, becasue you will never pass for a girl with that voice!
19:02:25 AliceMercer -> DON"T SAY THAT
19:02:47 dave -> http://slgames.wordpress.com/2007/04/12/alternatives-to-second-life-uber...
19:03:02 sroseman -> the populace of
19:03:07 JenniferW -> grins, did Jen do an intro??
19:03:26 jeff -> so smooth, we barely notice
19:03:37 JenMad -> http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20070805
19:03:44 sroseman -> I have divorced myself from SL for a short while anyways
19:03:54 JenMad -> http://jaycut.com/
19:04:35 JenMad -> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/jaycut_online_video_editor.php
19:04:44 jeff -> http://educationalwikis.wikispaces.com/Examples+of+educational+wikis
19:05:11 sroseman -> say it quickly 3 times
19:05:30 dave -> http://gigaom.com/2007/08/03/second-life-finally-gets-a-direct-competito...
19:05:39 AliceMercer -> Hey J.W.! Wanna do a webcast on Harry Potter 5 in Sandbox later?
19:05:43 JenniferW -> grins, I am on that page :) I believe
19:05:51 JenniferW -> Ohhh we can try!!!
19:05:58 jeff -> http://www.multiverse.net/
19:06:20 AliceMercer -> I managed to stream AND record and Skype today, it could happen, no?
19:06:36 AliceMercer -> SL [yawn]?
19:06:51 JenniferW -> I cannot do both yet
19:06:58 JenniferW -> I can capture ME -- but no one else
19:07:12 AliceMercer -> Hmm, Mac JDub?
19:07:18 JenniferW -> Nicecast -- yes
19:07:26 JohnSchinker -> Cool Dave. Very interesting. You could create a 3d walled garden, then.
19:07:28 AliceMercer -> I could make suggestion for Win OS, but not Mac
19:07:35 JenMad -> http://www.panraven.com/
19:07:36 JenniferW -> I can try on my PC too
19:07:40 AliceMercer -> Daveland, or I WANNA GO!
19:07:44 dave -> you got it john!
19:07:51 dave -> and integrated with our VRE
19:08:03 JenniferW -> Canyou bring in BRYCE images and scenes??
19:08:12 JohnSchinker -> so virtual pei then....
19:08:29 jeff -> http://mashable.com/2007/07/16/wiki-toolbox/
19:08:29 JenniferW -> HELLO SHARON!!!
19:08:32 JenMad -> http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/create_photobooks_with_panraven.php
19:08:49 dave -> moi j'aime les poptart
19:08:53 jeff -> http://www.grub.org/
19:08:53 AliceMercer -> Can we talk about Dy/Dan contest?
19:09:07 AliceMercer -> ou est la poptart?
19:09:16 dave -> moi j'aime les poptart
19:09:35 AliceMercer -> mais, ou est la poptart Dave!
19:09:39 sharonp -> moi aussi moi aussi
19:09:43 JohnSchinker -> les popstart ou les poptarts?
19:09:56 AliceMercer -> YES where the F are they?
19:10:02 AliceMercer -> I've been asking that?
19:10:04 AliceMercer -> Hello!
19:10:08 dave -> http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=1184
19:10:59 sharonp -> tetes a claques
19:11:35 AliceMercer -> DAVE They are reporting it, in California
19:11:41 JenMad -> http://www.tangler.com/group/11039/discuss
19:11:45 AliceMercer -> At least on Public Radio?
19:11:50 JenniferW -> they have recalled A LOT of voting machines
19:11:53 dave -> right... on public radio
19:11:54 JenniferW -> A LOT in CA
19:11:59 JenniferW -> we heard all about it in CA
19:12:10 AliceMercer -> Dave, Public Radio has a VERY high listenership.
19:12:23 JenniferW -> I heard all about it on KFI this week
19:12:25 AliceMercer -> But it looks like a great article.
19:12:33 dave -> yes... and doesn't have corporate sponsorship... which is mypoint... it has huge readership here as well
19:12:33 JenniferW -> KFI -- public radio
19:12:39 dave -> adn listenership
19:12:51 AliceMercer -> Did we discussioni PanRaven?
19:13:35 AliceMercer -> Someone's suggesting the Classroom 2.0 would be better?
19:13:45 jeff -> http://news.com.com/House+panel+approves+legal+shield+for+bloggers/2100-...
19:14:27 sharonp -> uh-oh - Jen and Jeff are tangling - let's not start rumours, folks
19:14:30 JohnSchinker -> cnet owns "com.com"?
19:14:36 dave -> :P
19:14:37 jeff -> http://www.savenetradio.org/070802-Wyden-Brownback_Statement.pdf
19:14:41 JenMad -> tee hee :)
19:15:16 dave -> http://www.codeweavers.com/store/
19:15:31 AliceMercer -> Oh, anyone listen to the piece on Science Friday about frequency auction
19:16:17 JenMad -> http://bliin.com/
19:16:30 Cathy E -> hello all
19:16:35 dave -> yo
19:17:00 AliceMercer -> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12487026
19:17:06 JohnSchinker -> I've heard lots of good things about codeweavers.
19:17:17 dave -> so far thumbs up from me
19:17:18 AliceMercer -> I have a twitter plan...
19:17:20 JohnSchinker -> The conventional wisdom is that it's the way to go if you need to run windows apps on linux
19:17:23 JenniferW -> is codeweaver selling legal software -- the cost seems not quite right
19:17:25 AliceMercer -> but geotagging is nto needed
19:17:38 jeff -> http://www.masternewmedia.org/audio_music_publishing/music-for-video/whe...
19:17:39 dave -> sure... why wouldn't it be legal?
19:17:39 JenniferW -> I need to research it a bit more
19:17:48 JenniferW -> look at the cost for Office --
19:17:55 dave -> yeah... those guys are theives
19:17:57 JenniferW -> is it $39.95 for it all
19:17:59 JenniferW -> LOLOL
19:18:06 JenniferW -> not saying that -- just need to research it more
19:18:25 dave -> http://www.networkcomputing.com/channels/storageandservers/showArticle.j...
19:18:30 JohnSchinker -> No. It allows you to run windows software on a linux box. It doesn't include the windows software
19:18:43 JenniferW -> just wondering
19:18:50 JenniferW -> it says Office -- doesn't it???
19:19:02 sharonp -> did i miss dave c mentioning tetes a claques??
19:19:03 AliceMercer -> Office has a high legal overhead.
19:19:20 AliceMercer -> MS, backed by 1,000 copyright attorneys
19:19:21 JenniferW -> I will go back and reread it more carefully --
19:19:30 JenMad -> http://www.everex.com/gc3502/index.htm
19:19:42 dave -> moi j'aime les poptart
19:19:43 JenniferW -> it also listed Photoshop -- so just wondering
19:19:51 sharonp -> copyright attorneys, ahhhh yesss, that explains so much
19:19:54 JenniferW -> what does POPTART mean ?? I am seeing pastries here
19:19:58 dave -> yeah... it's the advertising that costs even more money!
19:20:01 sharonp -> hah!
19:20:11 AliceMercer -> Oh, Robin good left off Free Sound Project
19:20:37 AliceMercer -> http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php
19:20:48 AliceMercer -> You can get foley and seffects there
19:20:50 AliceMercer -> not just music
19:20:53 JenniferW -> 1gb of ram too --
19:20:59 jeff -> http://oedb.org/library/features/150-writing-resources
19:21:36 JenMad -> http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/statevirtuallibraries
19:21:39 AliceMercer -> I remember EVEREX
19:21:48 AliceMercer -> They were like DELL but local in Calif.
19:21:56 AliceMercer -> Friend bought one from them
19:22:01 JenniferW -> weren't they in Newbury Park??
19:22:06 JenniferW -> hmmmmm
19:22:15 AliceMercer -> Maybe?
19:22:20 JenniferW -> I think they were
19:22:28 dave -> http://geeksandgod.com/forum/all-about-drupal/updating-drupal
19:22:43 dave -> http://www.jisc.ac.uk/whatwedo/themes/access_management/federation/anima...
19:22:54 sharonp -> geeksandgod - that is hilarious!
19:23:24 sharonp -> successes from geeks or god?
19:23:32 JenMad -> http://blog.ted.com/2007/08/100_websites_yo.php
19:23:44 JenniferW -> chivalous???
19:23:50 sharonp -> shibboleth
19:23:54 JenniferW -> ahhhh thank you
19:24:07 JenMad -> http://cogdogroo.wikispaces.com/StoryTools
19:24:17 sharonp -> ...all these religious references!
19:24:42 JenniferW -> Leveeeen
19:24:44 jeff -> http://www.hackaday.com/2007/08/03/defcon-15-undercover-reporter-flees/
19:24:48 jeff -> http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33207/108/
19:24:56 sharonp -> wth the possible exception of cogdogroo - who apparently can't decide what he/she/IT is
19:26:12 sharonp -> guess it is hard to imitate a hack!
19:26:27 dave -> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/29/nteach12...
19:26:31 JenniferW -> I am now scared
19:26:39 sharonp -> there goes my next haloween costume
19:26:47 sroseman -> What was that 50 tools for teachers again..the link
19:26:52 sroseman -> pretty please
19:27:02 JenniferW -> Alan Levine's Wiki
19:27:15 JenMad -> http://cogdogroo.wikispaces.com/StoryTools here you go ...
19:27:19 JenniferW -> ty
19:27:36 sroseman -> and the link isthanks
19:27:46 sroseman -> thnks
19:27:48 Durff -> limping along here with Pentium laptop & no headphones...so i am not ignoring anyone, just dealing with computer
19:27:49 sroseman -> thanks
19:28:21 JenMad -> http://teaching.mrbelshaw.co.uk/index.php/2007/08/03/8-things-that-irrit...
19:29:01 Lee -> as in Kooky monster?
19:29:08 dave -> that kind
19:29:22 sharonp -> frankly, we need to stretch kids in what ever learning style they are weak
19:29:34 dave -> uh... yeah.
19:29:36 dave -> teach them.
19:29:52 dave -> sure... defintely assess their strengths
19:29:53 jeff -> http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/1922
19:29:56 dave -> and weaknesses
19:30:29 jeff -> http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/1928
19:30:49 JenMad -> http://www.webbalert.com/
19:30:51 JenniferW -> I will invite her to Online Projects 4 Teachers
19:31:16 JohnSchinker -> I thought we were just putting the new server on Jeff's credit card.
19:31:31 JenniferW -> you NEED to do Amazon Aflliates -- HONEST
19:31:33 Lee -> :o
19:31:51 Durff -> lol
19:32:13 JenniferW -> or try CHIPIN too
19:32:45 jeff -> http://www.authorgen.com/authorpoint-lite-free/powerpoint-to-flash-conve...
19:33:19 jeff -> http://www.freshminds.com/animation/alan_watts_zen.html
19:33:19 sharonp -> oh no, Dave is breathing
19:33:29 JohnSchinker -> Who owns the webalert domain name?
19:33:38 JenniferW -> www.whois.com
19:33:46 JenMad -> http://luckofseven.com/
19:34:04 JenniferW -> I am checking John
19:34:04 Alice Mercer -> can you send Dave's links again?
19:34:06 Alice Mercer -> please?
19:34:28 JohnSchinker -> webroot software, inc
19:34:47 JenniferW -> like the people who make SpySweeper??
19:35:39 JohnSchinker -> sorry. that was webalert.net
19:35:51 JenniferW -> ahhh
19:35:56 JenniferW -> still waiting for whois to list info
19:36:29 JohnSchinker -> webalert.com is owned by Global Interaction in Boston
19:36:53 JenniferW -> wow -- my who is is slow
19:36:59 jeff -> http://dnsstuff.com
19:37:10 Durff -> link to the poll?
19:37:27 JohnSchinker -> http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?domain=webalert.com
19:37:30 JoseR -> on front page
19:37:39 JohnSchinker -> durff: http://www.edtechtalk.com/node/1928
19:37:39 Durff -> here?
19:37:45 JenniferW -> looked up Global Interaction -- but there are 3
19:37:47 Durff -> thanks
19:37:49 JenniferW -> .com .net .org
19:37:51 JenniferW -> LOL
19:37:59 Alice Mercer -> No it's by Oakland/S.F. Dave
19:38:01 Alice Mercer -> Hello
19:38:10 Alice Mercer -> I could get there easier
19:38:44 sharonp -> I have been working on a prof dev survey for needs assessment all week - any trusted testers out there??
19:39:13 JenniferW -> how will you test us??? LOL
19:39:13 sharonp -> we are down to a survey that has less than 60 clicks (she cringes)
19:39:47 sharonp -> you take survey (surveymonkey) and give us feedback - too long, too incoherent... etc.
19:39:53 JenniferW -> When you use AMAZON affliates -- you can provide educational content and book ideas
19:39:56 JenniferW -> LOL
19:40:01 JenniferW -> Sharon -- send me the link
19:40:03 sharonp -> wow, took me a YEAR to get $10 of google ads
19:40:22 jeff -> skype 'worldbridges' to join in
19:40:25 JohnSchinker -> Get in there, JW
19:40:30 JenniferW -> LOL
19:41:17 Durff -> what about monthly or weekly sponsors?
19:41:38 JohnSchinker -> on the shows, Durff?
19:41:45 JohnSchinker -> or just on the web site?
19:41:59 Durff -> on worldbbridges
19:42:07 Durff -> e site
19:42:11 Durff -> the
19:42:25 JenniferW -> http://salutetoseuss.wikispaces.com/BookTitles
19:42:25 JohnSchinker -> that makes sense.
19:42:28 davec -> who would do the work lining up the sponsorships?
19:42:31 JenniferW -> I get kick backs on each book
19:42:38 Durff -> radio stations do it
19:42:39 davec -> kick backs.
19:42:41 davec -> yes.
19:42:44 davec -> they do.
19:42:49 sharonp -> grants would work
19:42:57 Durff -> you dave
19:43:02 davec -> the history of advertising, however, works the other way around
19:43:07 davec -> the product comes first
19:43:13 davec -> and then the show is created to sell the product
19:43:26 davec -> grants would work
19:43:29 sharonp -> I'm with Dave - skeptical of other involvement
19:43:42 sharonp -> maybe it is just the Canadian in me
19:43:45 Alice Mercer -> I like the affiliate idea, because it'll miss the random aspect of google ads
19:43:46 Durff -> grants how?
19:44:05 davec -> http://educationbridges.org
19:44:20 sharonp -> apply for gov't grant or independent grant that allows fro some kind of freedom of expression
19:44:30 sroseman -> the wiki
19:44:49 Durff -> i think stakeholders should be peaying
19:44:54 JenniferW -> grants work great
19:45:35 sharonp -> sorry Jen, already had it penned in our wiki for WOW2 (just kidding)
19:45:42 JenniferW -> LOL
19:45:46 JenniferW -> I knew you would
19:46:01 Alice Mercer -> I say start with the Amazon and chip-in?
19:46:02 JenniferW -> you could have affliate links -- we pay you to link to us!! :)
19:46:14 JenniferW -> and then you pay us to link to you --
19:46:25 JenniferW -> LOL -- okay, maybe not :)
19:46:27 Alice Mercer -> No, and grant takes time to get going?
19:46:50 JenniferW -> that is why I don't use Google Ads -- I can't get them to always stay educational
19:47:01 JenniferW -> perhaps you can share how you can get specific ads
19:47:15 Alice Mercer -> They are less random over time aren't they?
19:47:16 JenniferW -> I stay with the STATIC ads -- such as FireFox, Google Docs
19:47:22 Alice Mercer -> Isn't it based on ad-sense?
19:47:35 JenniferW -> Alice, I have not been able to train my ads
19:47:39 JenniferW -> to stay educational
19:47:55 JenMad -> TOM BROUGHT IN MY NEW MONITOR!!! YIPPIE!!!
19:48:05 JenniferW -> Yeah! Tom!!
19:48:15 Durff -> googles ads solution is not a proactive choice
19:48:21 sharonp -> x-rated babes of edtech - JenM is there something you are not telling us (hah! remember I am a Women of the web - you should see how often I get kidded about our "calendar")
19:48:29 JenMad -> My anniversary present ... some woman want jewels ... I want hardware and software!
19:48:34 jeff -> http://travelbridges.com
19:48:55 JenniferW -> Sharon -- the speed dating with Sheryl Nussbaum Beach was something FUN to explain
19:49:12 sroseman -> Speed dating???
19:49:25 sharonp -> yeah, missed out on being one of Miguel Guhlin's speed dating teachers.... sigh
19:49:27 Durff -> how did you do that jen?
19:49:31 Alice Mercer -> Wow, this is sounding uncomfortable?
19:49:38 sharonp -> would have worn my lip gloss for that!
19:49:49 JenniferW -> LOL -- Sheryl had set up a scenario where we talked with 4 teachers for 15 minutes each
19:49:50 Durff -> we know
19:49:51 JenniferW -> via skype
19:50:03 JenniferW -> and then at 15 minutes, we got a new group
19:50:09 JenniferW -> she called it SPEED DATING
19:50:10 sharonp -> so had Miguel - then there were network probs
19:50:16 JenniferW -> I think it needed another name
19:50:21 sharonp -> (sigh - disappointment)
19:50:33 JenniferW -> yes, the second time -- it did not work out as well
19:50:40 JenniferW -> but we had used Gizmo
19:50:47 sroseman -> neat concept
19:51:50 Alice Mercer -> I'll talk?
19:52:57 sroseman -> Meow
19:53:15 Durff -> blueball
19:53:22 Alice Mercer -> WoW Calendar?
19:53:32 Durff -> w/ pics
19:54:16 Alice Mercer -> Of HOT, NEKKID....
19:54:21 Alice Mercer -> computer parts?
19:54:27 Alice Mercer -> No clothes!
19:55:47 sharonp -> you know, it would be fun to put out photos of web 2.0 in the raw - completely unclothed - but it might corrupt too many people - wouldn't want to be responsible for encouraging vice
19:57:48 JenniferW -> I don't have google ads on amazon links
19:58:00 JenniferW -> sharon -- WHAT??
19:58:35 JenniferW -> I need to head out for a bit
19:58:37 sharonp -> Jen - we are being sillyy
19:58:39 JenniferW -> thanks for a good chat
19:58:41 JenniferW -> I hope so --
19:58:50 JenniferW -> I mean , diet is going okay -- but NOT ready for Prime Time
19:58:52 JenniferW -> :)
20:00:42 sharonp -> gonna head out too - good evening to all!
20:01:50 davec -> later folks
20:01:54 davec -> i'm out too
20:01:58 davec -> :)
20:02:20 Alice Mercer -> Hey, that was my Vampire/VAC post
20:05:11 sroseman -> Thanks all I am out
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