EdTechWeekly#38 - Viddler, GoPHP5, Vista Woes, Flickr apps galore, & lots more
EdTechWeekly#38
July 15, 2007
Viddler, Talkbean, OpenMoko, Scrubit, Vista Woes, Blending IPhones, DotSub, Oops, Vitalist, GoPHP5, Ingimp, Flightaware & Lots 'o Flickr Love from Jen
This week's Del.icio.us Links
Chat Log Below
18:34:09 JohnSchinker -> Music on the stream? Can you afford that? :-)
18:39:09 AliceMercer -> What's the music on A?
18:40:49 AliceMercer -> Hi Dave
18:41:04 dave -> yo yo
18:41:50 AliceMercer -> Hey, someone got caught in Dale's Cone o'Phoolishness again.
18:42:06 AliceMercer -> I should re-post that every two months.
18:42:19 AliceMercer -> Wishful thinking Dave?
18:42:31 AliceMercer -> 39 instead of 38?
18:43:35 AliceMercer -> So that was teh mistake we made on It's Elementary. Should have NOT numbered it.
18:44:24 AliceMercer -> Hey, next week, do 22, just to freak folks out!
18:45:00 dave -> numbering just adds confusion
18:46:16 AliceMercer -> I HEARD THAT!
18:46:24 AliceMercer -> about Yugma
18:46:52 AliceMercer -> Don't pull up the p*rn while doing Yugma please!
18:47:09 JohnSchinker -> Why? We'd get more viewers that way :-)
18:47:55 JohnSchinker -> I read about p*rnotube.com while I was in Boston. Apparently, it doesn't have spyware or annoying popup ads (so I've heard)
18:48:12 AliceMercer -> Check it out john, and link to it on edtechtalk?
18:48:32 JohnSchinker -> Right. If anyone needs another link.... :-)
18:48:57 AliceMercer -> Hey my link on video conversion, had an interesting question in their forum
18:50:11 AliceMercer -> Hey, I have a job and a half the rest of the year!
18:50:35 AliceMercer -> Jeff, did you get my skype message?
18:50:52 AliceMercer -> I'm not around for secretary duties anymore. I edited the notes from last Sunday.
18:51:26 AliceMercer -> I KNEW Dave would want that one
18:52:00 AliceMercer -> You all might not feel the need for note taking anyway. Are minutes really Ed Tech Talky?
18:52:24 AliceMercer -> Mr. Rogers link
18:54:51 AliceMercer -> So are minutes and agendas EdTechTalkie?
18:56:25 AliceMercer -> Hi Cathy E
18:56:30 AliceMercer -> Nope no newsletter
18:56:52 Cathy e -> Hello Everubody
18:57:03 JenMad -> Hi, CathyE
18:57:10 JenMad -> :) :)
18:58:04 AliceMercer -> Four email accounts, man that is too much
18:58:30 AliceMercer -> Oh can I add a link?
18:58:36 dave -> yes please
18:58:40 JenMad -> Hi, Curt Bonk ... from Jennifer!
18:58:56 dave -> Hi, Curt Bonk... from Jennifer!
18:59:05 cjbonk -> Hi Jennifer--I have an idea for a show to share with you and David later.
19:00:22 AliceMercer -> Cruel you all are!
19:00:25 cjbonk -> Ah, do not spell it backwards.
19:00:28 AliceMercer -> West Alice?
19:00:40 JenMad -> are you listening to the stream?
19:00:41 cjbonk -> On Wisconsin
19:00:58 cjbonk -> West Allis
19:01:08 JenMad -> go badgers!
19:01:10 AliceMercer -> Thank god, the irony would be TOO much
19:01:27 cjbonk -> Iowa stands for I oughta went around
19:01:53 Cathy e -> Are you streaming?
19:01:59 AliceMercer -> yyep on A
19:02:15 JohnSchinker -> http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=119693727
19:02:16 cjbonk -> I am on skype
19:02:53 dave -> http://www.qub.ac.uk/info/Queen's%20Style%20Guide.pdf
19:02:53 Durff -> good on B too
19:03:36 JenMad -> http://www.slideflickr.com/
19:03:53 Durff -> great intro!
19:04:58 jeff -> http://www.viddler.com/learn-more/
19:05:46 dave -> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070709-neutral-net-needs-up-to-tw...
19:05:55 jeff -> yugma link: http://www.yugma.com/app/loading.php?user=&role=0&collsession=119693727
19:06:05 Durff -> everyone have sound?
19:06:16 Sean -> Yes
19:06:29 Durff -> everyone else?
19:07:07 JenMad -> http://flickrslidr.com/index.php
19:07:40 jeff -> http://www.publicdomaintorrents.com/nshowcat.html?category=ALL
19:08:03 Durff -> you mean you're not rich?
19:08:15 jeff -> http://all2convert.com/index.html
19:08:40 dave -> http://reviews.cnet.com
19:08:43 jeff -> others getting audio ok?
19:08:59 Durff -> i am
19:09:05 AliceMercer -> media-converter did NOT work (prior link)
19:09:10 AliceMercer -> This one did
19:09:11 Durff -> just asking others
19:09:16 jrichard -> Steve- Should I be hearing something?
19:09:17 dave -> http://reviews.cnet.com/mp3-players/apple-ipod-fifth-generation/4505-649...
19:09:30 dave -> http://reviews.cnet.com/portable-video-players-pvps/creative-zen-vision-...
19:09:37 Durff -> jrichard - yes
19:09:45 Durff -> scroll down
19:09:50 Steve_K -> Did you click on the Listen icon yet?
19:09:53 JenMad -> http://host.123flickr.com/
19:09:57 Durff -> to the A and B
19:10:07 Durff -> click on the black icon
19:10:29 Durff -> you scared him away
19:10:34 jeff -> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/space/4961220.html
19:11:09 jeff -> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts118/morgan_...
19:11:30 Durff -> jrichjard - audio below
19:11:53 dave -> http://rawstory.com/news/2007/FOX_Did_Mr._Rogers_ruin_entire_0706.html
19:12:18 jeff -> all of the links for tonight are at: http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20070715
19:12:33 JohnSchinker -> It's a load of cr@p. Mr. Rogers was a saint.
19:12:48 Durff -> you think?
19:12:51 jeff -> My life goal is to become a global multimedia Mr. Rogers
19:12:52 AliceMercer -> And a presbyterian minister!
19:13:09 JenMad -> http://voicethread.com/
19:13:21 Durff -> you have to change your sweater and shoes when you go home
19:13:27 JenMad -> http://designedtoinspire.com/drupal/node/515
19:13:31 JohnSchinker -> I saw him a couple years before he died. He said one of the best things you can do for kids is to let them see you being passionate about something.
19:13:36 AliceMercer -> will you need to edit out "punks"?
19:13:44 dave -> he better not
19:14:00 Durff -> are you calling me a punk?
19:14:09 Durff -> or dave?
19:14:21 jeff -> http://edcommunity.apple.com/ali/collection.php?collectionID=1087
19:14:24 AliceMercer -> do you know what it means?
19:14:40 jeff -> http://www.scrubit.com/index.cfm
19:15:09 cjbonk -> Been using this all week--just wrote about it for my next book
19:15:12 Durff -> does everyone here have the audio?
19:15:14 dave -> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070708-popularity-of-windows-xp-c...
19:15:15 AliceMercer -> They voicethread on edublogs
19:15:20 JohnSchinker -> Interesting. It works at the dns level
19:15:29 cjbonk -> Yes it is awesome
19:15:42 Durff -> great
19:15:52 JohnSchinker -> Won't work with HS and MS kids, though. To easy to circumvent
19:15:54 dave -> http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/07/15/1641254.shtml
19:16:10 jeff -> http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/09/microsoft-readying-vistas-first-servi...
19:16:37 AliceMercer -> I had a co-worker who worked in HS before credential, and he always went to students to find out how to circumvent blocks, and copy blocks on media
19:16:51 JenMad -> http://www.presentationzen.com/presentationzen/2007/07/presentation-ze.html
19:17:07 Durff -> wise kid
19:17:42 Durff -> like XP
19:18:05 jeff -> http://www.openmoko.com/index.html
19:18:24 atscogin -> Hello everyone! Just saying hi and wondering if there is anyone from ED897??
19:18:34 Melanie -> i am here
19:18:45 AliceMercer -> JM: this is a good one to: http://infosthetics.com/
19:18:50 Durff -> wow - whose class?
19:18:52 Sean -> I am here as well
19:18:56 sgagnon -> I'm here
19:18:57 jrichard -> What's up AScogin-Jay
19:19:07 dave -> http://slashdot.org/articles/07/07/15/1834214.shtml
19:19:09 morourke -> I am here as will- Michel
19:19:22 AliceMercer -> ECD897 where?
19:19:29 Durff -> or snide comments about dave
19:19:42 Sean -> Michel are you in Canada?
19:19:49 JohnSchinker -> The web is only 15 years old
19:19:52 morourke -> no- nh
19:20:02 atscogin -> Not much, just getting my bearings here; is anyone from class using their voice over IP??
19:20:17 JenMad -> http://ocw.usu.edu/Instructional_Technology/Advanced_Topics_in_Learning_...
19:20:19 Durff -> where is ECD897 located?
19:20:36 morourke -> unh- edu 897 with steve k
19:20:46 Durff -> you mean VOIPO?
19:20:46 Sean -> It would be interesting to be linked in with skype
19:20:56 atscogin -> Sure
19:21:03 Durff -> it works weill
19:21:11 AliceMercer -> Wow, that is an interesting course description
19:21:22 JohnSchinker -> webkinz
19:21:27 Durff -> like it isn't one?
19:21:27 JohnSchinker -> pbs kids
19:21:31 atscogin -> Where are some others in this room from besides ED897?
19:21:45 Durff -> which uni?
19:22:01 AliceMercer -> tumblr is my vote for most intutive interface
19:22:03 jeff -> http://php.indiana.edu/~cjbonk/Syllabus_R685_Fall_of_2007.htm
19:22:07 Cathy e -> Hello- all - I am from North Carolina
19:22:07 Steve_K -> UNH = University of New Hampshire
19:22:14 Durff -> i want a frozen soy dessert
19:22:42 Durff -> mocha fudge please
19:22:49 sgagnon -> Steve--was moodle down earlier today?
19:22:56 cjbonk -> Jennifer--David Wiley is the head of EduCommons for putting on online courseware
19:22:59 Sean -> Webkinz is used by my daughter(s) and their friends
19:23:01 Durff -> cheryl!
19:23:02 JenMad -> http://ocw.usu.edu/Instructional_Technology/Advanced_Topics_in_Learning_...
19:23:03 Steve_K -> Not that I'm aware of
19:23:05 Durff -> howdy!
19:23:22 atscogin -> It was for a few minutes...
19:23:24 cjbonk -> that is right
19:23:29 cheryloakes -> hi durff,
19:23:31 Durff -> who is your instrucoter?
19:23:32 Sean -> It came up later in the day
19:23:45 AliceMercer -> Oh Dave, you might want to look at the blogs for elementary from It's Elementary Show 1: http://groups.diigo.com/itselementary/bookmark/tag/show_1
19:24:00 cjbonk -> And I have updated it already.
19:24:06 jeff -> http://www.talkbean.com/lecturerEng.do?cmd=getHowLiveWorks
19:24:13 cjbonk -> write to me for the new version if you want. [email protected]
19:24:26 dave -> :) thanks alice
19:25:25 cjbonk -> Hi Jingjing
19:25:27 dave -> http://www.readingonline.org/articles/art_index.asp?HREF=/articles/r_walker
19:25:31 AliceMercer -> de nada
19:25:38 cjbonk -> I will be on after this
19:25:44 Jingjing -> Hey Curt:D
19:26:03 cjbonk -> check out the links above
19:26:04 JohnSchinker -> It looks annoying
19:26:26 AliceMercer -> justified
19:26:33 AliceMercer -> That's the formatting
19:26:50 dave -> thanks alice!
19:26:55 Jingjing -> Yes, I got the current streaming now
19:27:00 JenMad -> http://uitsnews.iu.edu/?p=922
19:27:05 JohnSchinker -> I should say that full justification annoys me, too.
19:27:24 AliceMercer -> You think it's annoying AT first,
19:27:38 AliceMercer -> But I'd advise you try to read it and you'll see the advantadge
19:27:42 JenMad -> http://www.avl.iu.edu/
19:27:44 Durff -> did i miss sth? i was crawling around on the floor unhooking the camcorder...i need a bigger desk
19:27:52 Durff -> hi jose
19:27:53 jeff -> http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9743304-7.html?tag=nl.e777
19:28:27 AliceMercer -> It does look stupid at first...
19:28:46 jeff -> http://mashable.com/2007/07/13/online-radio
19:29:09 dave -> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/13/ipod_lightning_strike/
19:29:59 Durff -> 21 in this chat room?
19:30:14 jeff -> http://ingimp.org/
19:30:16 Durff -> edtechweekly hits the big time?
19:30:22 JenMad -> http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/ to add a tag "for:edtechtalk"
19:30:50 cjbonk -> High powered things are possible here at Indiana University due to our supercomputer, Big Red
19:30:50 Jingjing -> Good thing is that I don't own an iPod ;)
19:30:53 AliceMercer -> Durff and Jose, can we do 5/8 tomorrow?
19:30:58 JohnSchinker -> Are you all required to be here, or is this voluntary?
19:31:14 dave -> http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=iphone
19:31:30 JoseR -> Alice how about early prep 1/4
19:31:34 Claudius Rodgers -> Volunteery
19:31:41 JenMad -> links for tonight's show are stored at http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20070715
19:32:26 Durff -> hi carlaarena
19:32:39 Jingjing -> Big Red looks cool~
19:32:40 JenMad -> http://flightaware.com/live/
19:32:43 JohnSchinker -> Cool. Welcome, everyone.
19:32:49 cheryloakes -> boy durff you are the welcome committee, Hi carla
19:32:52 carlaarena -> hi, everyone
19:33:01 atscogin -> Hello
19:33:07 Jingjing -> I am really keeping an eye on the deveopment of grid
19:33:08 AliceMercer -> Who the heck wants to blend metal?
19:33:09 Durff -> i have to do something right
19:33:10 cjbonk -> Big Red was the fastest 1 year ago but now is #6
19:33:17 Durff -> video isn't working
19:33:18 AliceMercer -> Hey, this chat won't let me say he!!
19:33:19 cjbonk -> for crunching data
19:33:21 Jingjing -> I was so impressed by the Access Grid last week
19:33:31 cjbonk -> #28 or 30 overall
19:33:36 jeff -> http://gophp5.org/
19:33:40 cheryloakes -> John, Dave and Jeff, I got my moodle operational at wocsd.mrooms.net Thanks for your help this past Thurs.
19:33:48 AliceMercer -> Hey, that's scary
19:34:02 JohnSchinker -> php4 end of life has been announced
19:34:03 dave -> our pleasure
19:34:04 jeff -> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/business/news/e3i214...
19:34:09 carlaarena -> it was a great discussion, cheryl, about moodle...
19:34:26 morourke -> www.skype.com
19:34:27 JohnSchinker -> That's great, Cheryl.
19:34:31 sroseman -> delicious ..has it been updated
19:34:52 AliceMercer -> Can I say, I HATE Sony DVD players
19:34:57 cheryloakes -> yea I am rolling moodle out at my high school tomorrow with 12 people.
19:35:02 dave -> yes... you may say this
19:35:03 AliceMercer -> won't play TIVO,
19:35:09 atscogin -> Shout it out sista
19:35:22 AliceMercer -> PITA fussy about what darn dvd's it'll play
19:35:26 Jingjing -> Technology is changing so quickly~
19:35:30 AliceMercer -> http://www.speedmatters.org/
19:35:35 AliceMercer -> Can I share this one?
19:35:43 AliceMercer -> Since I'll be gone next Sunday
19:35:57 Durff -> where you going?
19:36:11 AliceMercer -> My sister always seems to buy Sony's I buy cheap $40 from Frys, and it works
19:36:15 Jingjing -> http://www.agsc.ja.net/index.php
19:36:49 AliceMercer -> oh curt is in....
19:36:50 AliceMercer -> sorry
19:36:54 AliceMercer -> I'll listen
19:37:02 cjbonk -> yes hi Alice
19:37:06 jeff -> curt and steve, skype in to 'worldbridges' when ready
19:37:15 AliceMercer -> Gentlemen first....
19:37:19 AliceMercer -> in this instance
19:37:38 cjbonk -> it says not available
19:37:46 Jingjing -> I will have a go into skpy
19:37:49 cjbonk -> ok getting in
19:38:07 JohnSchinker -> Cheryl: http://moodle.org/course/view.php?id=34 is a Moodle course on using Moodle that you can import to use for staff development.
19:38:31 sroseman -> the reading online link, Jen
19:38:39 AliceMercer -> http://www.readingonline.org/articles/art_index.asp?HREF=/articles/r_walker
19:38:44 AliceMercer -> There it is
19:38:50 Durff -> isn;t there a numerical limit in skypeconference?
19:39:11 cheryloakes -> Oh, thanks, I get to practice importing! I am also using Jeff Utetch's practice page
19:39:13 JohnSchinker -> Yes, but he only has six right now.
19:39:33 JohnSchinker -> Look for the course backup. You need to upload the file to your sever, and then restore the course from it.
19:39:42 Durff -> what is the linmit?
19:39:50 cheryloakes -> thanks I will try that tonight.
19:39:57 cheryloakes -> how long have you used moodle? John
19:40:08 JohnSchinker -> I'm also (sort of) facilitating a collaborative effort to develop moodle coursework for K-12 use. I can keep you in the loop if you're interested.
19:40:34 Durff -> control panel
19:40:34 JohnSchinker -> I've been using it off and on for 3-4 years.
19:40:36 cheryloakes -> yes keep me in the loop.
19:40:47 JenMad -> jingjing: please standby ... trouble shooting audio with Curt
19:40:52 Claudius Rodgers -> Tell him to click on...
19:40:55 Claudius Rodgers -> Programs...
19:40:59 Jingjing -> OK
19:41:00 Claudius Rodgers -> Go to accessories
19:41:01 carlaarena -> i'd to love to hear about that too, John, about moodle.
19:41:05 Claudius Rodgers -> Go to entertainment...
19:41:13 Claudius Rodgers -> and then volume control
19:41:29 carlaarena -> I'm going to pilot a course for students at the language center I work for in Brazil.
19:41:38 Jingjing -> Could you tell me when it's ready?
19:41:42 JohnSchinker -> There's not much going on at the moment, but you can go to http://www.bbhcsd.org/msb if you're interested.
19:42:02 JohnSchinker -> I'll be right back. The beer glass is empty :-)
19:44:13 dave -> http://www.jhsph.edu/publichealthnews/articles/oops.html
19:45:04 carlaarena -> now we have an echo
19:46:05 dave -> http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2005/03/06/2003225764/print
19:46:19 dave -> anyone else hearing that echo?
19:46:25 carlaarena -> yes, dave
19:46:42 dave -> carla... you're the first person :) i don't hear it :)
19:47:20 JohnSchinker -> I'm not hearing it. Anyone else in the stream hearing an echo?
19:47:29 carlaarena -> now it's ok
19:47:48 JohnSchinker -> Cool. I think we were getting Curtis twice.
19:48:20 cheryloakes -> I love the seacoast development center and Christa!
19:48:33 cheryloakes -> That is where I learned Moodle, at Seacoast
19:49:04 cheryloakes -> I would be happy to help webcast at Christa
19:49:18 Jingjing -> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/02/technology/02link.html?ex=1184644800&e...
19:49:19 carlaarena -> john, can you write the link you're showing in yugma here?
19:49:27 JohnSchinker -> I'd be happy to help, too. You'll fly me in, right?
19:49:37 JohnSchinker -> http://php.indiana.edu/~cjbonk/Syllabus_R685_Fall_of_2007.htm
19:49:49 AliceMercer -> Hey, no one told me I was going to webcast academy?
19:50:04 cheryloakes -> I missed you at the center Steve, next time.
19:50:35 cheryloakes -> Alice are you signed up? We plan to start July 25th 8 pm EDT
19:50:42 AliceMercer -> NO!
19:50:53 Steve_K -> Cheryl, It's hard to miss me, I'm the tall guy :)
19:50:55 JohnSchinker -> Alice, what wre you talking about? You're teaching it !
19:50:56 cjbonk -> dotsub
19:50:57 JohnSchinker -> :-)
19:50:58 cheryloakes -> Well Susan and I are trying to get it all together. Hang in
19:50:59 AliceMercer -> I'll do it, but this is the first I'm heard?
19:50:59 jeff -> http://dotsub.com/
19:51:07 AliceMercer -> What the HECK!
19:51:10 dave -> http://www.dotsub.com/
19:51:13 dave -> damn you lebow
19:51:16 cheryloakes -> Steve, I think I saw you during hte Dave Warlick presentation.
19:51:19 AliceMercer -> I've never GONE to it!
19:51:36 JohnSchinker -> All right, calm down. I was kidding. Shesh. :-)
19:51:54 dave -> http://www.yackpack.com/
19:52:03 AliceMercer -> Okay, so I need to attend WCA, when?
19:52:15 AliceMercer -> 7/25 at 5 PDT/8 PDT
19:52:30 cheryloakes -> We are starting July 25th before teachers teaching teachers.
19:52:34 carlaarena -> http://www.dotsub.com/
19:52:46 carlaarena -> I'll be there, cheryl!
19:52:47 dave -> http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snapgenie...
19:52:48 AliceMercer -> Okay, and I need to...?
19:52:52 dave -> doh
19:52:55 cheryloakes -> great carla, we can use your help!
19:53:03 cjbonk -> chinswing
19:53:06 carlaarena -> no, no...I'll be learning!!!
19:53:07 jeff -> http://chinswing.com/
19:53:11 cheryloakes -> alice, we will send out information in the next couple days.
19:53:17 AliceMercer -> Thank god!
19:53:20 dave -> www.snapgenie.com/
19:53:21 carlaarena -> I'll be learning with you!!!
19:53:23 cheryloakes -> okay carla you can be on the learning side, me too.
19:53:48 AliceMercer -> Was this something in the newsletter that I didn't get or did someone tell someone who forgot to share with me?
19:53:50 cheryloakes -> Alice have you been getting emails from webcast academy? if not you may want to go in and register.
19:54:01 AliceMercer -> no joke, lol
19:54:09 cheryloakes -> It was in the newsletter that it would be starting soon, nothing specific yet.
19:54:13 carlaarena -> do we need to register again, cheryl?
19:54:16 AliceMercer -> Okay link me?
19:54:29 cheryloakes -> carla I saw you on the list you are good.
19:54:47 AliceMercer -> It's Jose's fault!
19:54:49 cheryloakes -> Alice you may be on the list, I am working my way down it is pretty big.
19:54:53 JohnSchinker -> I just registered half an hour ago for edtechtalk.com. I was waiting for a free T-shirt, but Jeff said it's not coming :-)
19:54:57 AliceMercer -> it's okay
19:55:12 AliceMercer -> where is the link to the newsletter?
19:55:35 cheryloakes -> it is part of the subscribing to the site. not sure I can direct you there just now.
19:55:42 AliceMercer -> Hmm, I'm on site?
19:55:43 AliceMercer -> brb
19:55:48 JenMad -> http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2005/03/06/2003225764/print
19:56:01 JenMad -> ... via dave ...
19:56:04 carlaarena -> we talked about sweets and your memories in chinswing. pretty cool!
19:56:10 carlaarena -> and also about stereotypes
19:56:52 AliceMercer -> I've had interesting discussion on teaching ELD on chingswing
19:56:58 carlaarena -> http://www.chinswing.com/pages/discussion.aspx?id=a19b67e7-9e47-4123-9d8...
19:57:02 Jingjing -> http://myoops.org/twocw/Global/oops/20040509.htm
19:57:29 carlaarena -> about sweets and the great thing is that Durff was at twitter and accessed it and told students in japan about her memories
19:57:30 JoseR -> So what's today's show about?
19:58:00 dave -> dicussion with Steve K. and Curt Bonk
19:58:02 Jingjing -> wow
19:58:15 JoseR -> He actually counts his apps!
19:58:16 AliceMercer -> found teh subscription. I understand that Jose "volunteered" us
19:58:20 carlaarena -> http://www.chinswing.com/pages/discussion.aspx?id=fc1522d8-d2a0-4367-a6f...
19:58:28 carlaarena -> about web 2.0
19:58:34 Jingjing -> :D
19:58:41 jeff -> http://www.vitalist.com/
19:58:51 dave -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getting_Things_Done
19:59:17 cheryloakes -> ok alice I think I am better knowing this, I thought you were going to disconnect my chat priviliges. :-)
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