Parents as Partner Episode # 27 September 21, 2009

Post-Show description: 

The Parents as Partners team welcomed Larry Ferlazzo, a high school teacher  from Sacramento, California Larry  as he discussed his new book “Building Parent Engagement in Schools”

Larry shared his experiences in engaging parent using home visits and community partnerships.

Chat Log

10:04:52 [email protected] -> -EdTechTalk: hi


18:46:00 pooh bear -> -EdTechTalk: kasey


20:49:35 Lorna Costantini -> -EdTechTalk: hello everyone we start in 10 min


20:55:12 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: sorry about the audio


20:59:18 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey langlab cindy...welcome!


20:59:39 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: we should be streaming using the ustream player to the right


21:00:21 LangLabCindy -> -EdTechTalk: thanks, matt!  looking forward to hearing this...


21:00:40 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey jeannine...thanks for joining in tonight!


21:00:54 Jeannine S. -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Matt, hi everyone


21:01:37 LangLabCindy -> -EdTechTalk: What an interesting title Lorna has - what was it again?


21:02:36 jvirant -> -EdTechTalk: uStream audio is sounding good!


21:02:39 cgseibel -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everybody!


21:02:46 [email protected] -> -EdTechTalk: hi everyone


21:03:16 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey chris and penny...welcome!


21:03:34 plind -> -EdTechTalk: hey Matt -- getting some major echo -- oh wait maybe it's gone


21:03:38 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: speaking with Larry regarding his new book on parental engagement


21:04:02 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hello sujokat...welcome to Parents as Partners...speaking with Larry Ferlazzo


21:04:33 sujokat -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Matt from Australia I'm on holidays here!


21:04:45 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: welcome back chris ;-)


21:05:05 ChrisJohnston -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks


21:05:06 plind -> -EdTechTalk: @matt - do you know if there is way for me to get the ustream audio to go through itunes?


21:05:16 ChrisJohnston -> -EdTechTalk: I was switching browsers


21:05:30 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I don't think it is possible the ustream audio suitable??


21:05:57 plind -> -EdTechTalk: oh it's fine -- just trying to pipe it through the house speakers so I can do dishes while I listen LOL!


21:06:08 ChrisJohnston -> -EdTechTalk: ITunes allows you to boost with the eq. I have often wondered about that myself


21:06:24 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: gotcha penny...nice system you have there!


21:06:39 plind -> -EdTechTalk: the itunes one is way further delayed than the ustream .. makes it hard to follow the chat when I do it through the "speaker" icon


21:06:48 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: back to that whole issue of "engagement" vs "involvement" relating to parents


21:07:21 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: the first time I ever hear "parent engagement" was when I met lorna online 2 yrs ago


21:07:32 sujokat -> -EdTechTalk: great to finally hear his voice after reading his fabulous blog and awesome tweets for so long!


21:08:10 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @sujokat...I feel the same way...he certainly is a prolific blogger and "share-er"


21:08:48 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey Peggy!


21:08:57 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everyone!


21:09:31 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: too many webinars tonight!! I'm so sorry I'm late! I'm thrilled to hear from Larry Ferlazzo!!


21:09:54 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: no problem at all Peggy...thanks for joining in.


21:10:28 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: how cool is that!!! Dr. Pushor quoted in Larry's book from a past PAP webcast


21:11:36 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: how exciting!! my audio was delayed and I didn't hear the reference until 30 secs after you wrote that!


21:11:56 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey peggy...we are on the ustream...I hope :-)


21:12:14 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: aren't PLNs fabulous!


21:12:33 Jeannine S. -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyG agreed!


21:12:36 plind -> -EdTechTalk: u r fine on the ustream!  have a new system set up! PaP and dishes -- way to multitask :-)


21:12:50 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @Matt-didn't know that-I'm there now!


21:13:06 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: can't beat that, Penny!


21:13:25 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: peggy...I'm using the 2 computer method, soundflower on Mac


21:13:39 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: thank you!! love the alternatives :-)


21:13:51 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I like that thought regarding power...


21:14:15 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Give up Power and Control...sounds like the google mantra


21:14:37 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: then again, they sure seem to have a great deal of power now :-)


21:15:11 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: we're really talking about empowerment aren't we?? parents often don't feel they have any power


21:15:17 plind -> -EdTechTalk: ownership is key - if parents don't feel that they have some sort of ownership (or power if you will) it is hard to put your all behind it


21:16:38 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: what an exciting example Larry!


21:16:43 cgseibel -> -EdTechTalk: the principal is key in setting the culture. changing the power paradigm. who gets to decide.


21:16:57 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I totally agree cgseibel!


21:17:23 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hello sarah...welcome to parents as partners...we're talking with Larry Ferlazzo about his new book on "Parental Engagement"


21:17:32 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: the book comes out at the end of the month I believe


21:17:57 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that is going to be a really valuable book for us!


21:18:06 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk:


21:18:42 sarah H -> -EdTechTalk: Hi--I saw the tweet and jumped right over--I'm a fan :)


21:19:15 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: larry blogs, quite prolifically, over here:


21:20:00 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Larry is my "go to" person for relevant, fabulous web 2.0 resources! He has so many "best of" lists that are great!


21:22:04 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: how is it delivered to parents (Parent University)?


21:22:53 plind -> -EdTechTalk: love parent university -- and esp the fact the parents get to learn things relevant to them


21:23:39 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: it makes so much sense!! we need to be asking what they want/need much more often!!


21:23:58 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: welcome to PAP Alec...talking with Larry Ferlazzo about his new book


21:24:04 Jeannine S. -> -EdTechTalk: Parents as an asset rather than as a pain in the butt! I like that.


21:24:05 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: welcome plnaugle as well


21:24:22 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everybody.


21:24:24 courosa -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Matt, got the lowdown from @cgseibel on Twitter.


21:24:29 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Paula


21:24:54 plind -> -EdTechTalk: so true Lorna -- see great things happening with parents building communities around sports and other activities .. just hasn't extedended to the school


21:25:17 courosa -> -EdTechTalk: i'm losing sound, anyone else?


21:25:18 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: Need to step out a minute will be right back. Hi Peggy.


21:25:20 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:


21:25:50 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes a bit of a problem with sound right now--in and out


21:26:13 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: it's back


21:27:30 [email protected] -> -EdTechTalk: I'm getting feedback


21:27:59 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes feedback here


21:28:57 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hello kathyI


21:29:02 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: keep going with that thought Larry!


21:29:10 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: still getting feedback??


21:29:15 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: no fine now


21:29:18 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: K


21:30:26 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that's such a helpful point! could teachers ask parents for their input during a P/T conference--about their needs?


21:30:38 plind -> -EdTechTalk: there isn't much that replaces conversation ... though through experience online does it always need to be face to face?


21:30:43 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: it's easy to ignore a survey


21:31:04 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: surveys are hard to write as well.


21:31:16 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: people can get survey fatigue quickly


21:31:56 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @plind--good point but we also probably need to ask them what's the best way to communicate with them? all don't have internet access but probably all have cell phones :-)


21:33:04 plind -> -EdTechTalk: @peggy -- true .. really noticing in the past 6 mo a real strengthening of communities through FB ... very interesting trend happening esp with the advent of fan pages (esp when used the way Matt's school uses them)


21:33:05 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: and how does that work Larry when you don't teach to the test explicitly?? how do the students perform?


21:33:32 plind -> -EdTechTalk: but if parents say "meet me on FB" not many schools will meet them there


21:34:01 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: excellent point about the Facebook fan pages :-)


21:34:19 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @plind...the fan page paradigm is a bit of a game changer-by providing a model where updates appear in your stream the tool becomes pretty useful for getting your info


21:34:52 sujokat -> -EdTechTalk: gtg thanks Matt


21:35:38 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: chau sujo


21:35:41 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @Larry-do you communicate with your parents in multiple languages?


21:35:43 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for stopping by


21:36:05 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: :-)


21:36:31 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that was a profound statement!! need to make it a priority for it to happen!!


21:36:45 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hello jvirant...welcome to parents as partners


21:36:59 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I take that back :-)


21:37:37 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: for more info on larry's book:


21:37:44 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: book comes out at end of month


21:37:48 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Scott!


21:37:52 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Welcome!


21:37:54 Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Matt


21:38:09 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: How is teaching degree coming along scott??


21:38:20 plind -> -EdTechTalk: @matt and peggy -- total game changer (sorry 4 the delayed response)


21:38:21 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Scott-always glad to see you!


21:39:18 Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Between semesters.  Start again Oct 15.  Got my first B last time. Killed my straight A streak:{


21:39:42 Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Peggy


21:39:47 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: oh no Scott--you should have tapped your PLN :-)


21:39:54 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: Scott its really not about the grades.


21:40:26 Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: I did use my PLN.  Time management was my biggest issuse.


21:40:33 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: God Bless you.


21:41:15 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @Larry-what are the strategies you recommend for dealing with those highly mobile populations where you don't have the students for a 4-year period?


21:42:37 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: Is anyone else hearing 2 conversations?


21:42:54 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: do you have the ustream playing as well as itunes?


21:43:20 Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Nope.  Do you have both ustream and ETT A running?


21:43:47 KathyIshizuka -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks everyone. Will follow up & check out Larry's book.


21:43:59 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: Guess I did have two things.


21:44:08 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for stopping by Kathy


21:44:20 Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: Ustream is better....less delay


21:44:56 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: But volume is lower on ustream.


21:45:11 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: how does that work--you stay connected with the parents even though they move out of your school attendance area?


21:45:48 Scott Shelhart -> -EdTechTalk: try changing the volume slider in the ustream bar (bottom right). Default is 50%


21:46:05 cgseibel -> -EdTechTalk:


21:46:39 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: It is all the way to the top and I have my computer's volume on max.


21:47:11 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: Now Larry just got louder.


21:47:59 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: do you find that parents want to be involved in the decisionmaking?


21:48:57 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: a school garden is a great idea


21:49:01 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: every school should have one


21:49:21 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I know that parents definitely rally around issues that are important to them!


21:51:18 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: excellent point! if it's a priority it will be sustained!


21:51:48 plind -> -EdTechTalk: that is so true -- sometimes try to give what we want to give rather than give what people/parents need


21:52:18 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes!! do we provide parents with what they want or what we think they need?


21:53:14 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: but we need to figure out how to find out what parents want/need! (besides surveys)


21:53:57 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that is such a great idea Matt!!


21:54:42 plind -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyg -- it's what I'm trying right now with wired wednesdays .. adressing the tech need of parents for their needs rather than approaching it "look what your kids can do"


21:55:14 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: fantastic plind!! do the parents show up??


21:55:49 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: @plind I'm interested in doing training with parents. What are you doing?


21:56:36 plind -> -EdTechTalk: I have a guinea pig group right now .. we aren't doing it in the school though -- too much filtering -- but we are having a blast!


21:57:07 plind -> -EdTechTalk: maybe once they can see the utility in their own lives .. the jump to the utility for the kids isn't so far


21:57:14 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I just watched a great video from the UK where they talked about having a "Surf Room" for parents to come to school to learn to use the technology and to get access to their kids online work! very impressive!


21:57:34 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: @plind Do you just let them ask questions, or do you have a game plan?


21:58:07 plind -> -EdTechTalk: only had a couple -- so a loose game plan (ie google suite) then see where they take it


21:58:41 sarah H -> -EdTechTalk: I get up at ridiculous o'clock, so I've got to sign off but this was great, thank you!


21:59:06 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: @plind Can spend a lot of time just with Google apps. I love them.


21:59:56 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: some great parent engagement videos here!


22:00:00 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: Larry amazes me with the amount of material he shares with the rest of us.


22:00:53 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks all


22:01:06 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: as usual, we appreciate your joining us...


22:01:19 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm really looking forward to Larry's book!!


22:01:20 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: we'll be broadcasting live on the 1st and 3rd Mondays of each month


22:01:45 Jeannine S. -> -EdTechTalk: Great way to start the year PasP team.  Looking forward to more!


22:01:47 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: I want an autographed copy so I'll have to see Larry.


22:02:04 plind -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Larry!


22:02:15 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:


22:02:25 LangLabCindy -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks, Larry!


22:02:28 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: please forward any topic ideas, guest suggestions, etc to us...


22:02:30 plind -> -EdTechTalk: hey guys!


22:02:38 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: would love to hear stories of success from the field


22:02:50 plind -> -EdTechTalk: let us get a few more sessions under our belt!


22:02:58 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: it's so great to have Parents as Partners back!!


22:03:10 plind -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for still doing this cindy Matt and Lorna!


22:03:16 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: thanks all!


22:03:28 plnaugle -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you everyone.


22:04:09 Jeannine S. -> -EdTechTalk: Good night


22:04:13 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you Larry!! You're doing some awesome work and we really appreciate your sharing it so freely in your blog!


22:04:51 plind -> -EdTechTalk: amazing work Larry -- different challenges -- but always lessons to learn


22:05:25 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: there are a lot of grants in Calif for it


22:05:47 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that's so true--parents think if the teacher or principal contact them their child has done something wrong! We need to change that


22:05:57 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: and NEA/CTA have REALLY pushed it.


22:06:02 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: yes from Phoenix AZ-Richard Ramos! Fantastic principal!


22:06:05 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: Don't expect it for free


22:06:16 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: they need to stipend


22:06:25 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey alice


22:06:36 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I didn't see u sneak in there ;-)


22:06:51 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: We have parents that refuse visits, but we've met them in parking lots


22:07:05 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: My principal is pretty aggressive


22:07:06 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: alice, that is a nice way to handle it...


22:07:13 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: win win


22:07:20 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: non threatening


22:07:45 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: when Richard and his teachers went door to door before school opened they didn't reach every parent but they sure reached a lot of them who were very grateful for the visit!


22:07:47 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: we do it after school, you have to budget your time


22:07:57 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: He has more students than an elementary teacher


22:08:15 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: $40 or so


22:08:26 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: we're in the same district so it's the same


22:08:33 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: it's a state grant


22:09:22 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: we passed out fliers to the entire neighborhood for a bbq the week before school, and invited even people (like seniors) that didn't have kids


22:09:29 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: at Richard's school they did the home visits on one of the teacher-paid contract days before school started - it was a priority for them and one of their school goals


22:09:43 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: Yea that's a way to do it peggy


22:09:58 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: or you can visit on parent conferences. I did that in Oakland.


22:10:06 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: I went out at night in East Oakland


22:10:14 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: and since I didn't see them during day?


22:10:37 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @alice-love the idea of the BBQ and inviting anyone in the neighborhood--not just parents--great community building!!


22:10:51 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: Yeah, because they aren't just that snot nosed kid


22:11:19 plind -> -EdTechTalk: @alice - that's a great idea to welcome whole community into the school -- the uni my sister works for does the same thing with the neighbourhood around campus


22:11:23 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: how long have you been on


22:12:22 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: Would you like some links to NEA stuff supporting it?


22:12:47 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: it's clear there is no "silver bullet" for solutions to parent engagement but as per Larry you need to make it a priority and it takes a lot of hard work!


22:13:07 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk:


22:13:22 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: They like it because it's a stipend opportunity


22:13:33 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: great article Alice!


22:13:48 plind -> -EdTechTalk: yes around the child .. but in a way that can integrate easily into the family life


22:14:25 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: for us, we could look at getting 18 hour credit (paid time we don't work)


22:14:41 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: before school days


22:14:57 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: also, move the funding stream from grant to regular part of budget


22:15:01 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: very interesting perspective!!


22:15:52 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: VERY Traditional


22:15:59 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: started right after Labor Day


22:16:20 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: Larry loves summer school


22:16:28 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: which they will eliminate next year at H.S. in state


22:16:34 plind -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for letting me hang with you guys while I did my chores!  it was fun! Bye


22:16:39 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: BUT the mid year breaks are a PITA


22:16:47 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: my son has 2 weeks off soon


22:16:57 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: awkward time


22:17:01 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: bye plind! great to have you in this conversation!!


22:17:01 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Metaweb


22:17:08 metaweb20 -> -EdTechTalk: hi


22:17:17 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: IT'll be gone next year


22:17:26 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: bye all!


22:17:29 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hey metaweb


22:17:51 metaweb20 -> -EdTechTalk: hi matt


22:18:47 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: amazing!! student wants to fail a class so he can go to summer school??


22:19:01 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: Our district is a dinosaur


22:19:20 alicemercer -> -EdTechTalk: has latest start date of any local district


22:19:36 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: agreed, Peggy...amazing


22:20:08 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I'm sure it has something to do with the cost of extending the school year!


22:20:17 matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: very cool!!!


22:20:27 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: wonderful show!! thanks Lorna, Matt and Cindy!!


22:20:35 metaweb20 -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Larry ...


22:20:51 PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: bye everyone